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End of season with an unexpected record of 22-0, though I was thinking that it could be difficult to stay in the top 5 of my league !

I had some luck at the beginning of the season + 2-3 games "luckily" won + other teams not progressing as I expected. But, I will go to League 2 next season.
I'll be able to promote 2 of my younsters (21-22 yo, 1 HoF and 1 Legend). If I'm lucky (again), I'll be able to stay, but my veterans are going really old (41 - 39 - 38).

In 4 seasons, I'll have 4 young players (<26) + 2 very good SF of 35 y-o.
I must not forget to have some very good subs (around 10-15k/week).

Congratulations - it's not always easy to estimate how strong your team is against the other teams in the league, but it's refreshing to get a positive surprise!
It seems you already checked out other French III-division level teams records and scoring differences for this regular season as you were able to determine whether or not you have positive enough scoring difference to be promoted to II-league anyway without being a league champion... Was it a close call, I mean were there lot of other teams with 22-0 record on division III? It's likely that many of those 22-0 teams will win their leagues, but if it'd be the case that some of them (who might have better scoring difference than your team, if any?) wouldn't, will you still be promoted in any case?

I know this has been discussed multiple times in some forum posts, but I just don't remember how many teams will be promoted in addition to league champions.. Official game manual only says that only 1 team "from the best of the rest" (non league champion) with best regular season record, and additionally some other teams (if there are bot teams on upper division - so I guess that is a factor here too?), can get promoted.

5 teams demote out of every league (6 in Utopia).

1 champion promotes out of every league, and there are 4 leagues in a lower division for every 1 league in the division above (except for Utopia div IV, which has 96 leagues compared to 16 leagues in Utopia div III).

So for every 1 league in the division above, there's 1 auto promotion spot available -- 1 auto promotion spot from II into I, 4 auto promotion spots from III into II, 16 auto promotion spots from IV into III. (except Utopia which gets weirder -- 2 auto promotion spots into div 1, 8 auto promotion spots into div II, and 0 auto promotion spots into div III).

Auto promotion rankings are determined by:
1. Regular season conference ranking (you MUST have won your conference in the regular season standings)
2. Total wins, descending
3. Point differential, descending

So Elan was one of 4 France d.III teams to go 22-0 in the regular season and has secured auto-promotion.

Thanks for the explanations ;)

(I checked before the PO, in case of...)

Hi, can add me to homegrown list

5 teams demote out of every league (6 in Utopia).

1 champion promotes out of every league, and there are 4 leagues in a lower division for every 1 league in the division above (except for Utopia div IV, which has 96 leagues compared to 16 leagues in Utopia div III).

So for every 1 league in the division above, there's 1 auto promotion spot available -- 1 auto promotion spot from II into I, 4 auto promotion spots from III into II, 16 auto promotion spots from IV into III. (except Utopia which gets weirder -- 2 auto promotion spots into div 1, 8 auto promotion spots into div II, and 0 auto promotion spots into div III).

Auto promotion rankings are determined by:
1. Regular season conference ranking (you MUST have won your conference in the regular season standings)
2. Total wins, descending
3. Point differential, descending

So Elan was one of 4 France d.III teams to go 22-0 in the regular season and has secured auto-promotion.

Thank you for an explanation on my part as well! I think I may have seen this kind of discussion somewhere before, but as far as I can remember such a detailed explanation isn't a part of an official game manual, even though it should! Game manual only mentions about this (not official translation): "In addition, one extra promotion spot will be granted to a team that has a best regular season record (which is a team that hasn't already secured the promotion by other means).".

Speaking of different kind of league formats, that I was writing about in some previous posts when we were discussing in the possible establishing of BBHG (Buzzerbeater Homegrown) league, I did some initial "research" on different kind of league formats used in different sports leagues (mainly in Finnish top division sports, but some others as well).
I can share some of those in the near future if people are interested in hearing about them, when I'll have more time to write and when I have confirmed all of those leagues are actually played in the format it seems they are being played. Those comparisons could possibly work as an inspiration/as a starting point/even as a final solution to our challenge of finding "a perfect" league format for BBHG league.

But already now, for instance, if manager of S.F 29-team, Fattuhi, would be interested in joining the BBHG league, we would already have 9 participating teams. That would be exactly the same as in Finnish mens volleyball league, in which 8 will proceed to playoffs. And 9 would already be more than in Finnish bandy league (8 teams), rinkball (7 teams), and handball league (7 teams). If top leagues in a country can (and will) operate with such a low amount of teams and have meaningful league systems in function to determine a league winner, I don't see why BBHG would need to wait for, say 16 participants to announce their interest before we can start such league. I don't recall anyone saying that we should wait anyway, but I'm just saying. :)

5 teams demote out of every league (6 in Utopia).

1 champion promotes out of every league, and there are 4 leagues in a lower division for every 1 league in the division above (except for Utopia div IV, which has 96 leagues compared to 16 leagues in Utopia div III).

So for every 1 league in the division above, there's 1 auto promotion spot available -- 1 auto promotion spot from II into I, 4 auto promotion spots from III into II, 16 auto promotion spots from IV into III. (except Utopia which gets weirder -- 2 auto promotion spots into div 1, 8 auto promotion spots into div II, and 0 auto promotion spots into div III).

Auto promotion rankings are determined by:
1. Regular season conference ranking (you MUST have won your conference in the regular season standings)
2. Total wins, descending
3. Point differential, descending

So Elan was one of 4 France d.III teams to go 22-0 in the regular season and has secured auto-promotion.

Thank you for an explanation on my part as well! I think I may have seen this kind of discussion somewhere before, but as far as I can remember such a detailed explanation isn't a part of an official game manual, even though it should! Game manual only mentions about this (not official translation): "In addition, one extra promotion spot will be granted to a team that has a best regular season record (which is a team that hasn't already secured the promotion by other means).".

Let me supplement the game manual part.
In Standings page, it says,
"One extra promotion spot will be awarded to the team with the best regular season record (conference ranking being the most important criteria)."
/community/rules.aspx?nav=Standings&official=1
And in Utopia League page, it says,
"Along with the conference champions, the rest of the promoting teams will be determined using the usual bot promotion ranking system (ordered by conference rank, wins, forfeits, point difference and finally points made)."
/community/rules.aspx?nav=Utopia&official=1

Thank you for your message. You are indeed correct, it does mention such things. I wasn't writing clearly enough. What I meant especially that clear information about league structures and such are missing. As manager Azariah wrote:

1 champion promotes out of every league, and there are 4 leagues in a lower division for every 1 league in the division above (except for Utopia div IV, which has 96 leagues compared to 16 leagues in Utopia div III).

So for every 1 league in the division above, there's 1 auto promotion spot available -- 1 auto promotion spot from II into I, 4 auto promotion spots from III into II, 16 auto promotion spots from IV into III. (except Utopia which gets weirder -- 2 auto promotion spots into div 1, 8 auto promotion spots into div II, and 0 auto promotion spots into div III).

Auto promotion rankings are determined by:
1. Regular season conference ranking (you MUST have won your conference in the regular season standings)
2. Total wins, descending
3. Point differential, descending

Also - while this is totally off-topic in terms of homegrown teams - I find that to not be the only part where the official game manual is lacking. Once again, as all important draft session is closing, there is no information available on official game manual for instance about what is going to be the potential range of player should he have 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 ball potential (that's found on a draft page when you scout&interview them). I know this is kind of "basic knowledge" and it's kind of embarrassing as a long term homegrown manager to admit that I don't remember them automatically (but I don't).

I know it has been discussed on forums multiple times. But also, for non supporters forum search function is unavailable, which makes it unnecessarily difficult to find such basic information which should be part of game manual to begin with. (I can just imagine how new users would see this sort of things...). I just know I've been spending a lot of time searching for forums for many, many different kind of things without finding them, or if I have found them, in many instances that search project has been an unnecessarily long grind through tens/hundreds of forum posts.

End of a rant. ;)

Promotion!

II for me in the same league and the same conference of Virtus Portici.

After a thrilling and balanced final, I was promoted to the top competition again, even if only for one season.

Congratulations for both Sea Urchins and Svatý Jur Snakers, you both really seemed to have a very exciting final series which both were decided in tie-break matches with 5 and 2 points, respectively!
Promotions are always great news and time for celebration for us homegrown teams, and while in some occasions promotion might end up being a one season visit, promotion is still something that has been achieved by you and you only (and not been achieved by buying players), and nobody can take that away from you!

Besides, now that that I took a look at especially Svatý Jur Snakers team salaries, they are quite impressive already! I know there are/have been some homegrown teams that have/have had bigger player salaries, but nevertheless it's worth noting that it takes lots of time, patience and planning to achieve such level.

As a one comparison - after not doing thorough research though in terms of each teams player salaries - it seems to me that your team would immediately be the number 1 favorite to win the BuzzerBeater Homegrown league should you be interested to join the 8 of us that have currently announced of our interest to participate. Also Sea Urchins do seem to have a very strong roster (in terms of player wages, which often is quite good means of predicting future performance) which would likely make his team at least a very strong medal contender in my predictions!