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I have also updated Top8 salaries and teams receiving salary benefit-information to this post: (326589.4). Thanks again MrJ for providing us that top8 salary data!

@all HGL participating managers - countdown is at 2 days currently! I hope we can get everything finalized before that, that's mentioned in this post: (326589.68).

Last edited by Wagner at 4/5/2025 11:35:27 AM

Amagad !!!!

I've just made my first lineup for the HGL (weird name...), and my opponent's 2 best players have the same salary as my entire team (glups).

Like in Game of Throne, I would say "Hodor", but I'm not sure it will be enough to win...

Amagad !!!!

I've just made my first lineup for the HGL (weird name...), and my opponent's 2 best players have the same salary as my entire team (glups).

Like in Game of Throne, I would say "Hodor", but I'm not sure it will be enough to win...

LOL

Well, my friend, your best player has a salary of $59k

My entire team salaries total less than $59k!

@all participating managers of HGL:

Now we are officially finished in our match organization process, so everything is ready for Season 1 of HGL! :)
Thank you for everyone's co-operation during the match organization process.

I wrote a short (come on, it's a relative term;) Announcement which serves as an intro for the Season 1, found from here: (326589.2).

Let's keep discussion alive on this thread - like I've said, for me this is going to be mentally my "premier", most important league in Buzzerbeater from now on, and I'm very much looking forward to playing against (or rather, with) you guys!
Best of luck to all of you for Season 1!


Last edited by Wagner at 4/6/2025 9:51:04 AM

Amagad !!!!

I've just made my first lineup for the HGL (weird name...), [...]

I know, I'm just starting to learn to live with the fact that it's not BBHG ;)

[....]and my opponent's 2 best players have the same salary as my entire team (glups).

That's a good point! I was actually thinking that in addition to Top8 salaries (that MrJ already counted for us) it would be interesting to add as a comparison Top2 or Top3 salaries, as it would show us how sharp of an edge team has (in a form of best players) and would allow dramatic and interesting comparisons to be made easily.
Let's see if I have time to do that later, or calculate average age for Top 8 players/team, which would also be interesting data!

LOL XD

Well, my friend, your best player has a salary of $59k

My entire team salaries total less than $59k!

:`(

Well, at least this earned you (and BigChill) a HGL Special good spirit prize, as can be read from Announcements-post ;D

We could create an award for the best team regarding to its payroll.
(entire payroll or top8, I don't know).

Examples : you are total payroll #3, and you end with a league ranking #6 -> you won't win the award !
you are a total payroll #14, and you end at 7th rank -> you could win the award.

Sometimes having very high salary top-2 isn’t that much of an advantage. In my case I primarily train players for our National team, so often have a kind of unbalanced team despite having a very high salary team
Overall (National team big players tend to have HUGE salaries).
From what I’ve seen teams with their number 6-8 players not that far below their 1-5 tend to compete very well at league level and you can’t do that if your number 1 guy is $250k.

Hello all HGL managers,
First Round of Season 1 of HGL has just started less than 20 minutes ago!
Per Bernhardsson from Suuret Muinaiset scored the first ever point in HGL, and Ilmari Haavisto, also playing for Suuret Muinaiset, first ever field goal! Having said that, this is the only match for Round 1 that started 1 hour early, so in order to be fair for all that might not be accepted as an official "record", but it's still in the history books of HGL now.
After the whole round is finished, maybe we can see who will also score quickest free throw point and a field goal in Round 1 matches... :)
*EDIT* After reviewing all matches, it appears that 38 year old Šimon Zážický from Svätý Jur Snakers made the quickest field goal (and point as well) on the Round 1 matches, scoring only after 6 seconds. One of Madrid Chotis players wasn't too far away, as it took one second more from him to score against Lielupes Melnas Sirdis. So theoretically, if and as we want to be totally fair, he was the all time first scorer in HGL, while at the same time it can be said that earlier mentioned Per Bernhardsson from Suuret Muinaiset still technically did it first. :)

I'm sure most (if not all) of you guys already know this, but I'll share it here anyway: now that we all have official match numbers available for the duration of whole regular season (in these two posts, here: (326590.5), and here: (326590.6)), you can easily view any HGL match live if you so wish once it has started.

You just need to write/copy-paste this to your browser's address line, and replace that XXXXXXXXX below with the correct match number, and you should be able to view any match once it has started:
https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/XXXXXXXXX/reportmatch.aspx?realtime=1

Good luck to everyone for their first round matches - what an exciting day! :)

Last edited by Wagner at 4/8/2025 12:38:26 AM

Sometimes having very high salary top-2 isn’t that much of an advantage. In my case I primarily train players for our National team, so often have a kind of unbalanced team despite having a very high salary team
Overall (National team big players tend to have HUGE salaries).
From what I’ve seen teams with their number 6-8 players not that far below their 1-5 tend to compete very well at league level and you can’t do that if your number 1 guy is $250k.

I know what you mean... I've also once trained a NT player with a salary of $235968 (at his prime), so I can confirm those salaries can get out of hand especially for teams playing in lower divisions, and keeping in mind that one (or maybe even two) great players can't often be rainmakers, if there's no additional depth in the team.

I mean in real life I think having an excellent player in basketball affects more than for instance having (similarly) great player in soccer, as theoretically basketball is a non-contact sport, and most importantly there will be so many more scoring opportunities within any given basketball match, in where superior player(s) could be continuously effectively exploited by the attacking team. Luckily, it isn't always (or often) the case in BB that you could ride to success with 1 totally superior player, and depth of the roster is important as well.

Therefore having these top2 or top3 salary rankings (in addition to top8 of course, not to replace them) would serve as an interesting discussion starter, for instance: "Can team with 270K top 8-salary beat a team which has top2 salaries of 370K?"

I feel like what you mentioned (about BB league success when having enough depth in terms of players 6-8 or 9 in your salary ranking) has also been partly true for me in recent years - I feel like having one of the strongest benches in my BB league group (salary wise) has helped me to win enough games to survive (avoid relegation), while my top 5 or top 8 salaries would've suggested that I'm in a real threat of getting potentially a very bad regular season record. (Which I am, year after year, but I hope to avoid bullet this time around as well)!

(with some help of chat gpt)

HGL Season 1 - Game 1: Suuret Muinaiset vs Buckner Bandits - Game Report
Final Score:

Suuret Muinaiset: 112

Buckner Bandits: 72

Overview: The inaugural game of the HGL season saw the Buckner Bandits struggle to match the offensive and defensive prowess of the Suuret Muinaiset, falling 112-72. Despite a competitive start, the Bandits were overwhelmed by a potent scoring attack from the Muinaiset, who capitalized on their strong outside shooting and efficient offensive flow. The Bandits’ inability to secure rebounds, coupled with a lack of consistent shooting, proved to be their downfall.

Quarter Breakdown:

1st Quarter:

The game began with a competitive edge, but Suuret Muinaiset quickly surged ahead, finishing the first quarter with a 25-17 lead. The Bandits couldn’t contain Muinaiset’s offensive players, especially their perimeter shooting.

2nd Quarter:

The Bandits struggled to maintain momentum, with Suuret Muinaiset increasing their lead to 51-36 by halftime. Despite some solid individual performances, such as Mick Hunt’s efforts, the Bandits found it difficult to execute their offense and defend effectively.

3rd Quarter:

The third quarter saw the Bandits’ offense falter, scoring just 10 points compared to Suuret Muinaiset’s 36. With defensive gaps and missed shots, the game quickly slipped out of reach for the Bandits, leaving them down by 41 points entering the final quarter.

4th Quarter:

The Bandits fought back in the final quarter, scoring 26 points, but it was too little too late. The Muinaiset had built an insurmountable lead by this point, securing a dominant 112-72 victory.

Key Performances:

Suuret Muinaiset:

P. Bernhardsson (SF): 27 minutes, 11-14 FG, 3-4 3FG, 1-2 FT, 26 points, 6 rebounds. A standout player, Bernhardsson showcased his scoring ability and was a key contributor on both ends of the floor, finishing with a team-high 26 points.

T. Mäkipää (PG): 31 minutes, 7-10 FG, 2-3 3FG, 5-6 FT, 21 points, 9 assists. Mäkipää orchestrated the offense efficiently, contributing 9 assists and solidifying the Muinaiset’s control of the game.

M. Waris (SG): 27 minutes, 7-13 FG, 1-3 3FG, 4-4 FT, 19 points, 5 rebounds. Waris was another key scorer, helping push the Muinaiset’s lead with timely shooting.

Buckner Bandits:

M. Hunt (SG): 38 minutes, 9-22 FG, 1-4 3FG, 2-2 FT, 21 points, 2 rebounds. Hunt led the Bandits in scoring but struggled with his shooting efficiency. Despite this, he remained a central offensive force.

K. Moore (PG): 38 minutes, 5-14 FG, 2-5 3FG, 1-2 FT, 13 points, 4 assists. Moore was active in the backcourt but was unable to make a significant impact offensively. He showed flashes of playmaking but needed more support.

J. Costello (SF): 38 minutes, 5-7 FG, 1-1 3FG, 11 points, 3 rebounds. Costello had a solid shooting performance but was unable to contribute enough to stem the tide of Suuret Muinaiset's dominance.


Analysis: The Buckner Bandits struggled both offensively and defensively in this opening match. The Suuret Muinaiset's high shooting percentage, especially from beyond the arc, left the Bandits scrambling defensively. The Bandits' offensive flow was stagnant, with several key players, including Mick Hunt and Kevin Moore, unable to find consistent shooting touch.

The Bandits’ lack of rebounding, particularly offensive boards, was a glaring issue as the Muinaiset dominated the glass, contributing to their fast-break opportunities. Despite their shooting struggles, the Bandits kept pace early in the game, but the third quarter collapse was a turning point from which they could not recover.

Defensively, the Bandits’ man-to-man strategy was ineffective in limiting the Muinaiset’s perimeter shooting, with several players having wide-open looks. Additionally, the Bandits' turnovers and missed opportunities at the free-throw line also hindered their ability to moun