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IMO, selling a player for "too high" of a price should only count as cheating if there's a preponderance of evidence that the purchasing team was related to the selling team -- you transferred money between your two accounts.

If the purchasing team is just some random other team, the seller shouldn't be punished for either patiently waiting to catch someone who really valued the player (or someone doing a showcase and getting his player scooped by some anti-NT farm or whatever shouldn't be punished by losing both his player and the bulk of the money from the sale, even if that anti-NT farm account turns out to be a multi account of some other player that the selling team is not related to).

Personally, I see the stories about people getting fined (or I see people trying to start a witch hunt to get someone fined) just because a player happened to go higher than what was thought of as a "fair price", even though the selling team clearly had no ill intention to sell the player for that. Like say the ATG player frenzy that happened on a few of the US ATG draftees this season - some of them pushed up to 6-7M+ even though the general consensus among US NT trainers & scouts was that 3-4M was more reasonable... but the push up in price came strictly from unrelated teams bidding against each other, with no bad faith by the selling manager. I'm not aware of any of those specific examples generating fines in this go-around, but if they _had_, I'd be very much opposed to those fines.

If you think that a key part of this game is abusing on other players just because they dont have the knowledge of how this game works... Or the fact that if the we get rid off the hind of transfers that we are talking about ( selling waaaaaay overpriced) is going to destroy the market, tells me everything. You can buy low (we all know that before the new season you can buy players way cheaper than during the season) and sell at a normal high price, and thats completely fair and a really smart way to get some profit. But what you are defending is being selfish, take advantage of players without knowledge and if the users base is smaller you dont care because you have your good 25 m on the bank.

And I'm not going to try to answer to all the reasoning that your are giving in your message because its all about being selfish and all can be resume to: If there are so many ways that a new user can loose their money, why cant I add one more and jjst take their money instead? Because if they are going to lose it anyway It would be better for me to have It. And let me tell you that thats is selfish and not about thinking on the health of this game.

So now go ahead and develop whatever you want again to try to defend what you guys do, but I 'm not going to answer because it.

Its so sad but its the reality of BB...

I completely agree with this. I had started drafting a reply along these lines but I think I didn't post it in the end. Many years ago (I think somewhere in the range from season 9-15) I was a GM and I was instructed to adjust any transfers that were significantly out of market value---regardless of foul play. I ultimately came to view this as an injustice to the players and many of the players whose transfer I had to adjust had rightful complaints about this. For one as you pointed out, there is a skill to listing appropriately. For another, even if one just got absurdly lucky, it's not like we have a compensatory mechanism for bad luck on the other side.

AI bought this player (50385420). I overpaid for him minimum 700k because I couldn't wait more on player who I was looking for.

Well this value you give looks so subjective to me, I bought the same player 5 months before for 100k more...trained OD from 9 to the level you bought, plus some ID and PA, and you think his right price after training is 2.4?!
So either i overpaid him myself at beginning, or training the hardest skill for a big man would get you to LOSE 33% of value...this is totally against your idea of paying trained players (with low salary in this case) more than 18 yo, cuz if you expect to lose money on the one who trains, this is just what happens..

On the "try to scam newbies" with crazy price i'm with Joe. It should at least be mitigated with some malus when abusing it.



Last edited by antani at 4/7/2024 7:58:03 AM