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Well it's getting a little late in the season to make that decision but fortunately this year the Great 8 is pretty tight and for a team not really trying to win you've done enough to keep yourself in contention. You could try doing what I'm doing, i.e. aim for the middle and make some coin to spend down the road.

a couple of things:
1) in my experience, the competition to get out a lower division is terrific and fierce. you say you are confident you could do it, but drop back to any DII league and i would guess there are easily four teams in any league who plan on winning.
2) the attendance hit is another blow. winniing back fans is a process and takes a good bit of time.
3) you have the core of a good team, with several 27 year olds, and Eckert, who is very good. but i don't know if you have looked at the TL recently -- players are quite expensive, especially young ones. players with a future cost well over $2 million.
4) you do have plenty of room for good players to make you competitive this season. but they will all be over 30.
5) i'm not sure the Big 8 teams you may face in relegation (to make up 3 games and move past two other teams at this stage in the season is a tall order) have any doubts about wanting to stay at this level.

i should point out that merely making this level is tough, but a couple of the recent DII advancees (is that a word?) have been spectacular: Tucumcari has been in the finals every year since he advanced, Golden Horde are leading their conference and may end up with HCA for the playoffs, Delta i believe has been in the playoffs every season since he got up here, the Cacti the same --

but if you decide you want to stay and don't, then you miss the revenue and probably have older players you have to jettison for DII. good luck.

thank you, these are really helpful tips!

While you're really not a contender for the title, we rarely have American teams go very far. I think we've only had 2 teams ever reach the semis, and only a handful have ever made it to the quarters. If you can avoid the top couple teams in the knockout round, you can definitely reach the final 4 or 8. Either way, it's already been the best run for an American team since season 25. Good luck!

occasionally, i come to understand another manager's strategy, and learn something. i have been scouting EDH and i think figured out his clever approach to this season.

his squad has four capable veterans, a couple of them young, and then a large number of trainees, a couple of them quite promising. but, and this is what sparked my interest, with those veterans, why the enormous league losses?

i realized EDH is dealing with the reality of the league's salary floor by spending money on those veterans, and using them to stay in the Cup, which of course is some extra revenue. i think when those four are combined with talented trainees, he could have, luck permitting, a run well past the all-star break. that means the league games are used for training.

so, at the end of the season, EDH will have
-- a great draft position
-- a good deal of money in the bank
-- a head start on trainng a number of players
-- a core of veterans whose salary will be low enough to contribute in DII

i think he may drop with a team good enough to stay in DII, which would be quite a trick for a rebuild.

nice work.

Midseason update.....

For those watching (and wondering) I sold a couple of players this weekend that probably were not going to get enough training for next seasons team. (Realistically I set the prices so that I would a make profit and did not figure that both would actually sell.) I picked them (at what I considered a good price) up after my relegation series last season and figured that they would be good to train, knowing what I do now, I am not sure I would do it that way but it did work out.

Next season I see Paul Hurman and Erol Aksit as my top two guards (who are both quite trainable for D-II and eventually a return to the NBBA.) Also returning will be Salpigkidis, Playfair and Debras as starters. Curent trainees are Hurman/Aksit/K. Johnson/Jostmanis.....so some are saying wtf.....welll I dont want to train Hurman too much this season as he will kill me salarywise next season. K. Johnson was my #1 pick last year and has 7 pops (with a combination of single and double position training.) Jostmanis is an intersting guy and will be our SF of the future if things go right.

While I will have a good position for the draft I am not counting on a trainee from it....always a crap shoot but then K. Johnson surprised me last year....

For those that ever go down the path I have picked up some do's and don'ts.....if interested contact me....the main thing is know the transfer market, decide what your plan is and what your budget is.....bargains are the key. I have seen (and bid on some really good guys) but once they go by my max price point I drop out....it has enabled me to get what I consider good guys at great prices and still have several million in the bank..... o7 to you all in the NBBA.


Last edited by cws33 at 6/21/2015 9:07:51 PM

...and still have several million in the bank...

I'd be really interested to know how much the current NBBA teams have in the bank and what their weekly profit is. Was thinking about this the other day as I tried to figure out how in the world ozone still has $773k to spend on players. This has to be the last season he can afford this payroll, right?

He's getting B3 income. Not sure how much extra that is.

He's getting B3 income. Not sure how much extra that is.

Ozone is still in the round-robin portion of the B3 -- $20,000 a win (he has seven wins, so far). If he were to reach the finals, i estimate he would win another $500,000. B3 champs get $1 million.

This has to be the last season he can afford this payroll, right?

now you're seeing what it's like to compete against Ozone -- i have been asking that question for the last two seasons.

his maneuvering is even more amazing when you realize he has no US NT players and that winning the NBBA title is really not all that lucrative. he has maximized the attendance boost for the past couple of seasons, which means $600,000 in revenue. i doubt he spends much on staff (although his doctors actually kept players healthy, unlike the ill-trained witch doctors the Stags have suffered through). i figure that for much of this season Ozone was approximately breaking even from week to week before Cup winnings; he spend most or all of his savings on Ozveren (who looks to be another awesome player on a squad full of them), which i figure means he is running a weekly deficit of perhaps $100,000 a week. (of course, he may sell a PF, and that would brighten his finances at the expense of depth.) he has taken a calculated risk and is relying on a decent Cup and B3 run to tide him over this season, and use his massive LI game to bowl over any opposition we may try to muster.

i think G Khan has beefed up his interior game and should have HCA advantage. Right now, before injuries, i think the Whalers' run of NBBA titles will end this season and with that Ozone will begin his descent back to the world the rest of us play in. But i have underestimated the Whalers before . . .