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324689.738 in reply to 324689.737
Date: 4/16/2025 2:56:07 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Thanks! Happy to be here. Yes I have played BB before and I have good experience in training players for the U21 and NT. For me the most important thing is to be patient and have fun 😀


Good to know. Welcome back. I, too, have recently returned.

Good luck this season.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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Date: 4/16/2025 3:06:47 AM
BC Homegrown
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Thanks! Good luck to you too buddy!

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.740 in reply to 324689.736
Date: 4/16/2025 7:21:45 AM
Wagner College
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@ Wagner, it will, as you say, be a good problem if we have to expand the HGL in coming seasons.

Indeed... We'd still be able to accept at least maybe 1-2 more teams and being able to retain the same league system (and keep the amount of work required in running the league at reasonably close to the same level it is now).

In the case of adding 2 teams for instance, possibly we could alter it slightly, so that at least similar amount of teams would reach post-season play than currently (75%). For instance so that 2 best would be guaranteed a place for the Second Round of Playoffs automatically (instead of current 4), and teams on regular season positions 3-14 would play on the First Round of Playoffs. (That way 77,8% of teams would be included in the postseason play). This is very flexible league system in many ways. And if we'd ever have to decide rankings for teams not reaching Second Round of Playoffs, it would be possible to play such 'classification match playoffs' during regular HGL Playoffs, etc. However, currently that's not needed.

And if it would be the case that some current HGL managers would decide to step aside after one or few seasons, then we'd of course be talking about replacing project, not an expansion of the league.

The biggest challenge in major expansion is the nature of HGL, as nothing happens automatically. Time is going to show how much work this is for me to handle anyway, but I'm giving it my best.
There's a lot of work in getting things running with already 16 teams, let alone if some additional bonus aspects such as statistics are being permanently introduced to HGL.

And if some would like the idea (on paper) of dividing HGL to Premier League and Division 1, then I want to remind these people that the amount of matches would then be about doubled (if same amount of matches would be played per team per regular season), which adds significantly to the amount of work included. Also, if same kind of amount of matches (than in HGL currently) would be played in two different level divisions with 8 teams in both, then it would be necessary to play twice against same opponent during season, which is more boring than playing against different opponent each round.
Other option would've been to include a lot less regular season matches - during season 1 of HGL it would've meant only 7 (!) regular season matches per team, and I guess some (many?) would consider that an inadequate amount.

So I far prefer current league system (instead of different level divisions) used in HGL, as it gives maximum amount benefit for least amount of work (and removes many questionable/arguable decisions, such as at which level would new teams joining HGL would start from, etc.), and is flexible in terms of adding more teams to postseason play if we slightly expand HGL in the future.

Last edited by Wagner at 4/16/2025 7:23:53 AM

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324689.741 in reply to 324689.737
Date: 4/16/2025 7:32:38 AM
Wagner College
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Thanks! Happy to be here. Yes I have played BB before and I have good experience in training players for the U21 and NT. For me the most important thing is to be patient and have fun 😀

In that case I feel like we're going to see a strong team from you in 3-5 seasons, as you already have plenty of training experience! Training players for that level already require some (or actually in many cases lots) of patience and discipline, so you likely already possess some of the most important qualities what it takes to become a manager of a successful HG(L) team... :)
At least for me, the aforementioned HGL adds to the fun aspect of Buzzerbeater, as we can finally compete in a proper league against each other, and in HGL we don't have to fight against windmills like many of us do in regular BB leagues. (In other words, you can't mainly simply buy yourself out of trouble).

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324689.742 in reply to 324689.741
Date: 4/16/2025 8:03:09 AM
BC Homegrown
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I think training will require some adjustment, because I need more allround players. I was mainly good in training guards.

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324689.743 in reply to 324689.742
Date: 4/16/2025 8:16:21 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
340340
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I think training will require some adjustment, because I need more allround players. I was mainly good in training guards.


Yeah, I trained guards from different countries onto U21 NTs and now, as a newly transformed HG team, am having to completely rethink training across the team.

I only just went HG to start this season, getting rid of all non-HG players and drafting as best I could. I managed to get my 7'3" MVP C but he has holes which will take time to train. I have trained bigs before but not as much as guards.

I'm also going to train up some SFs. I think they will evolve naturally under a HG team where training rotations will favour them. I have a nice SF trainee on my 2nd Team (Westopian Tigers) who will end up as an all-round SF. Sadly, he is only a Perennial Allstar, so will cap quickly.

As for training a HG team (and only 8 players at that this season!!!) I have certainly had to think through the training process.


Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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324689.744 in reply to 324689.728
Date: 4/19/2025 8:12:12 AM
HÄrdboll
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And eh where do I do that?

Thanks for the hat off sir :)

From: Wagner

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Date: 4/19/2025 8:56:51 AM
Wagner College
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And eh where do I do that?

Thanks for the hat off sir :)

We have two Official Threads for HGL, where you can find more information. Currently, we have a plan to create new threads for each season of HGL.

The main thread can be found here: (326589.1).
It includes most of HGL information, rules and explanations of practices we follow in HGL (in order to keep the league running as smoothly and fairly as possible). Most of the discussion about HGL is meant to take place in that thread, but as HGL is a new thing, we're at least currently "allowing" discussion on both threads.
(At the moment personally I prefer allowing conversation to take place anywhere it "organically" wants to happen, instead of trying to restrict that to only one thread where it can take place, as I think it's very important that we can keep HGL community active :).

Then there's also an Official HGL Scores Thread, here: (326590.1), which was originally planned only mainly for scores and box score posts related to HGL, but it is currently also used for discussion (and in terms of discussion, especially used to provide match reports/speculation on recent match results).

So welcome to Official Threads to follow conversation, read more about HGL, about our league system and rules, participating teams etc. Reading that through should give you pretty good idea whether or not you're interested in participating HGL in the future seasons - I hope you are! :)

From: MrJ

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324689.746 in reply to 324689.745
Date: 4/29/2025 6:15:22 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Well, I dreaded it happening...and it did.

One of my players got injured tonight. The V-man pulled a groin and is out for 9-17 days.

My Level 6 trainer has some work to do. lol

Running an 8-man lineup just got really difficult.

Looks like it's back to the drawing board to create viable training plans.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.747 in reply to 324689.746
Date: 4/29/2025 8:00:54 AM
Wagner College
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Well, I dreaded it happening...and it did.

One of my players got injured tonight. The V-man pulled a groin and is out for 9-17 days. :/

My Level 6 trainer has some work to do. lol

Running an 8-man lineup just got really difficult.

Looks like it's back to the drawing board to create viable training plans.

That's a pity... It's going to pose another challenge with weekly GS optimization. Please remember to replace an injured player from your starting lineup for those affected HGL games... And if you set up 3 men lineups for cup/training matches, please make sure you will not accidentally do that for HGL matches.
Luckily though, it is quite rare to have two simultaneous injuries (not to mention 4) while having a good level doctor (which I think you had?), so you should be alright in terms of being able to dress enough players for matches.
And if my memory serves me, a good level doctor will likely help you a lot in terms of reaching that shorter expected injury duration (when the expected injury duration is as unsure as it is in this case, 9-17 days).
Let's just hope you won't be fouling out a lot in the next couple of weeks, as that'd make your bench even thinner on next matches!


Last edited by Wagner at 4/29/2025 8:01:26 AM

From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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324689.748 in reply to 324689.746
Date: 4/29/2025 11:27:03 AM
Buckner Bandits
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Thats rough man! Injuries are no fun but a good mix to the game. Tough!

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