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So I have no right to speak about what it takes to succeed in D.IV, having been relegated from their twice and only lasting one season each time. But I'm going to share a summary of my BB career, and maybe after you read it you won't worry so much about the prospect of relegation:

I started out as a newly-created team in IV.13, and I was quickly outmatched. In fact I temporarily lost interest in the game and didn't log in for a while, only logging in a couple weeks later when I was online and bored with a ton of time on my hands. I bought some guards, didn't train them well, sold them for a lot less money than I paid for them, spent some scouting points, found a nice-looking 7-footer who turned out to be Herbert Jones (22088501), a $5K salary 18yo PAS PF. All in all, not a very impressive first season as a manager. Then having finished in 8th, I relegated to V.204, an all-bot league where I went 22-0 without changing my roster at all, investing every cent into my arena. At the end of that season, I got Delbert Hogue (23484806), a $5K salary 18yo 6'6" PAS SF. I promoted to IV.43 and again found I sucked, so I put all my efforts into training Hogue and Jones out-of-position as necessary. I relegated again, with a pretty crappy draft except for an 18yo 6'0" SS guard with a $2.9k salary, Giuseppino Marasca (24733085). I've had some bad luck in the draft, as in no MVPs or HOFs were even in any of my 3 drafts. I relegated to V.136, where I am now. I spent the season until the all-star break training all three of Hogue, Jones, and Marasca. I sold Marasca for $132K and have been training Hogue and Jones at PG, despite a two-week injury to Jones. Now I'm looking to promote with a massive arena (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/28206/arena.aspx) which I've been consistently selling out and will probably sell out at higher prices next season with the promotion bonus. and Hogue and Jones are both pretty stellar trainees, at least in my opinion.

Jones (20yo, 89 skill points): 10/6/7/7/11/7 13/11/9/8 1/4/3
Hogue (19yo, 80 skill points): 8/6/9/8/10/10 7/7/8/7 4/8/2

Was it fun getting beat up in D.IV? Hell no. Was it more fun beating up on bot teams? Not really, no. But is my team a lot better for it? Absolutely. Am I going to do it again? Maybe, since I still have a lot of out-of-position training to do (I'm looking for +2 OD, +2 PA, +2JR for Herbert Jones before I cap him off with inside skills, which with his age and height could take more than a season for just those six pops). So basically what I'm trying to say is, relegation isn't a whole lot of fun, but it can actually be a great thing for your team. And plus also, you have a plan for your team, which is more than I ever had.

Also my weekly profit is $117K/week.

Last edited by Zeb at 8/18/2012 2:51:07 PM

aw man I need that cash MONDAY I see a guy that would be great for my team and I don't think he'll go for less, sorry but I can't invest on that arena yet, I'll use the promotion cash on a D4 player to get me over the hump in a eventual Relegation series, then after that, win a cup game or so then go for a guy that a friend is keeping for me.........we made a deal

Yes, when you're hungry and are given a bunch of seeds, it's always wise to eat the seeds right away rather than plant them because, I mean, you're hungry now and if you use them instead to plant food for the future, what will you do with all of that food?

hmmmmm

the seeds are cash, eating the cash is buying the player, don't have cash

or use the cash to plant (or build arena) for the future even if I relegate get a great NT draftee (hopefully) go back to D4.........the seeds grow to a lot of food, become wealthy enough to promote to D3, then replant, then let it grow, get it to 18k, go to D2, go to D1, aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


thanks man looks like we get along quite well hrudey gets a +1 there. great post and now I understand what you mean............

1 problem: Monay may be starting to get impatient keeping Prince so I may need to buy him after I get my arena straightened out first, Prince is a Great name and would help me for a while. So arena+Prince=hopefully getting the cash to stay out of relegation.

well as in the post earlier I said

Relegating back to D5 is like getting punched several times til you throw up blood

ok I don't want to relegate to D5.......but I also want to get some dibs on a great draftee, which would make me getting 7th ideal. I've never had a great draftee, the best was a starter potential, cause my allstar potential had 2k salary -_- and also my draft ain't out the window yet maybe my league doesn't scout to where I can land a stud to sell for a Mil.........always dream well thanks i'll update my league game once it's over and my status...

nope don't mind at let me load em up.........
(http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/a27xpu85q8a4gktct6lenu3b2b...) Coleman

Coleman been heavy train and since he's the elder he trains first, Delong was just a piece of luck that turned to my greatest steal so far in my BB career.

Delong (http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/ygrwkr7h07gp3snlab3qnj7u23...)

Coleman I less worry about as now I seen that at most Coleman will hit 55-60k salary....which is still manageable in USA D4...........but Delong is the worry now.....yes he only has 1 9 cause these playoffs I've been trying to get over the edge with some stamina traing and then had to do a wake up call of GS training once I stupidly forgot to set my lineup. also he was bought a couple of weeks after Coleman otherwise he would've had 9 IS/9 ID......but hey "defense wins championships"

so thats how they're going right now.....and yeah I am aware that once I hit higher divisions like D3 USA I will have to adapt to being a better defense......I will though try to bear down the scoring a little...but hey I like scoring. anyways thats Colelong right now.

Coleman behind cause when I started he was my only hpe of a fracnhise player that's why he looks like a 19 year old right now. And Delong I bought late and with somehow lesser pops (idk why) he's like he is.....but hopefully these lesser pops turn into many pops next season as I am hoping to have Delong at the prolific arena this season. and Delong's RB so low is a plus cause of salary.....I'll train that later due to elastic effect. and somehow I just got players with good PA so that they can dish it out if needed. and also their OD both is a plus I want to get them both at 9+

these are my cornerstones right here.........and I ain't letting them go! So hopefully I can afford them both for many seasons to come, and I still intend to have delong at near 100k salary, to be competitive in all divisions......

remember Tough, it is a marathon not a sprint! I think you are going from 1 extreme to the other and it is going to hurt you in the long run..

Yes you want young trainees, and i agree with Manon those 2 guys are well behind.. But you want to balance your roster with a mix of youth and experience. Plan your training for this upcoming season... What level trainer are you using?

If you are going to focus on training inside skills,buy 28-32 year old guards with salaries you can afford, and let them carry your team through the relegation battle, whilst you train your inside skills.. If you have all young players with no experience, you will get smoked. You can get some quality players over 30 for very cheap prices that will help you stay up!

Dont be in hurry to spend your cash now... Tomorrow is a new season.. Wait to see where you end up and what you have to work with.. You might just get lucky and promote to a weak conference and be able to finish mid table whilst making a tonne of cash.

Dont put all your hopes into the draft... It will only end in disappointment.. You are in a reasonably active league and you have last pick.. Chances are, all the good stuff is gone well before you get to pick.. I finished top in my league, and havent spent a single point in the draft knowing that by the time my pick comes around, there wont be anything left! Scouting points carry over.. Your best option would have been to scout, play lady luck in the draft, then if things dont work out next season and you finish on the bottom, you have a tonne of points to spend!

again Coleman was my original at 19 and Delong was bought 2 trainng weeks later they are only behind cause I've also been doing GS/Stamina strategy otherwise if I had ths champioship in the bag you'd see skills increased by 2 or even 3......Coleman would be at 10 RB and Delong wuld be at 6 already....but trusr me this will work out, I ain't letting them go. Coleman yes.....very very behind due to his starting age at my team creation and then Delong was just a wow-SS-at50k!? guy. But at least he got good ID< which is one good thing going to S21.

I plan on doing rebounding and some ID/IS to here.

Coleman: 12IS, 12 ID, 11 RB, idk SB
Delong: 9 IS, 12 ID, 8 RB, 8 SB

Then I'll train some SB to stop Coleman from being some how foul prone (I think he's trying to block shots but gets called for the fouls) so anyways yes they're far behind and I bet some teams might even tell me to just sell them for 300k each then use it to buy 2 really really fresh 18 yr olds out the gate but hey......these are my cornerstones here...........so I'm keeping them...anyways it'd be harder these days to get a guy like Delong for less than 200k in the TL. (if they were fresh)

Last edited by tough at 8/18/2012 5:23:43 PM