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147430.6 in reply to 147430.1
Date: 6/20/2010 11:47:54 AM
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Hey,
I trained a variety of skills but always did 1 position where available.
Trainee is 18 years old.
Level 4 trainer.

Week 1: Stamina training – 1 pop in Stamina
Week 2: Inside Shot training – 1 pop in Inside Shot
Week 3: Inside Defence training – 1 pop in Inside Defence
Week 4: One on One training – 1 pop in Driving
Week 5: Rebounding training – 1 pop in Rebounding
Week 6: One on One training – 1 pop in Jump Shot
Week 7: Shot Blocking training – 1 pop in Shot Blocking
Week 8: One on One training – 1 pop in Driving and 1 pop in Handling
Week 9: Inside Shot training – 1 pop in Inside Shot
Week 10: Jump Shot training – No pops
Week 11: Jump Shot training – 1 pop in Jump Shot
Week 12: One on One training – 1 pop in Driving
Week 13: Stamina training – 1 pop in Stamina

JS: 0.31
JR: 0.24
OD: 0
Handling: 0.99
Driving: 0
Passing: 0
IS: 0.89
ID: 0.60
Rebounding: 0.25
SB: 0

The last bit is the lowest possible sublevel of each skill.

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147430.8 in reply to 147430.7
Date: 6/20/2010 12:01:47 PM
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I didn't say it was exact ;)
The way I am doing it is by looking at the training speed analysis thread. If it says that ID takes 1-2 weeks to train, then I add .5 to the sublevel as based on the estimate, .5 is the lowest amount that it can be increased by.
So I do that for all primary and secondary skills trained each week.
And so far, I have managed to correctly anticipate which skills will pop, so it seems to be working well for me.

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147430.10 in reply to 147430.1
Date: 6/20/2010 12:38:21 PM
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I am training six 18 year-olds. I only remember the starting skills of one of them, because I posted them somewhere.

After this week (2nd week of rebounding), using a level 4 trainer, training 2 positions in various skills, my best trainee will have popped in every skill (including stamina and free throw) except for jump range (he had 2 pops in driving).

Level 4 trainer, two positions, training SFs
18 yo 6'3" 12 pops
other 18 yos probably had 6-10 pops, I can't be sure.

P.S. I bought a level 5 trainer last week (paid 125k for 23k salary) and am going to try and train Pressure for my 3 best trainees, during the finals.

Last edited by Jeeves at 6/20/2010 12:39:09 PM

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147430.11 in reply to 147430.9
Date: 6/20/2010 12:45:53 PM
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I understand that skill configuration is not regarded, however, I have made sure to keep them as balanced as possible so as to minimize the effect.
And player height is a factor, however, for the skills that I am training it will increase the speed rather than slow it down, so the effect is minimized.

"(e.g. if you see a skill level pop for 2 weeks, theoretically speaking the training gained may be anywhere from 1.1 to 2.9 levels, which is a huge variation)."
I don't think that is relevant for me because I am assuming the lowest possible sublevel. So this way, if something pops unexpectedly then that is great, however something should never not pop when expected. Does that make sense?

So if I think the sublevel of ID is at 0. And I train ID which should give roughly .5 sublevel to the skill, if it happens to pop then I will leave the sublevel of ID at 0, and it if doesn't pop then I change the sublevel of ID to .5

That way I am always assuming the lowest sublevel, and can train accordingly. At the moment my plan in training is always to ensure that I get 1 pop every week.

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147430.12 in reply to 147430.1
Date: 6/20/2010 12:56:21 PM
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19y/o C 9pop
18 y/o PF 10pop
18y/o C(aquired mid season)5 pops
19y/o PF(sold midseason)3pops

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147430.13 in reply to 147430.11
Date: 6/20/2010 12:56:53 PM
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I've had 4 main guard trainees, level 4 trainer and 2 pos training

20 y.o., 6'5'' 7 pops - JS, JR, OD, HA, PA, DR and ST

19 y.o. 6'1'' 6 pops - JS, JR, OD, HA, DR and ST (passing is very close, should pop with one more session)

18 y.o. 6'3'' 8 pops - JS, JR, OD (twice), HA, PA, DR and ST

18 y.o. 6'4'' 8 pops - JS, JR, OD (twice), HA, PA, ST and FT

Not a great season, if you ask me. I hope their sublevels are high :P. I also had a 28 y.o. guard who popped in JS, JR and HA, was very pleasing!

Last edited by rcvaz at 6/20/2010 12:57:21 PM

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147430.14 in reply to 147430.13
Date: 6/20/2010 1:03:04 PM
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I hope their sublevels are high :P


haha :P
I highly recommend to all managers out there that they should keep track of the sublevels. It is especially useful if you are thinking of selling a player. If you sell a player with high sublevels then you are losing value. However, if you know the sublevel is high, it may be worth spending 1 or 2 weeks to train those skills so that they pop and increase the value of your player.

From: yodabig

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147430.16 in reply to 147430.13
Date: 6/20/2010 5:02:23 PM
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I had just an unbelievable season of injuries to almost every player on my team so with a level 5 trainer 2 position training I really only trained 3 guards even close to properly,

22 y.o. 6'9" (yes I know too old and too tall but he is an original team player so I am sentimental) 5 pops and not even good ones FT HA DR JR ST
20 y.o. 6'7" (my draft pick, I don't choose their height!) 8 pops PA JS HA DR FT ST JR OD
20 y.o. 6'3" (also an original player but getting better) 8 pops PA HA JS FT ST JR ID OD


What a disaster! Next season my personal aim is to train at least 5 guys properly for the whole season.

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