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I don't hear very many in here making up sad stories about them.

just because it is useless to come here in BB-global and say something.

I'm sorry but this isn't true. A lot of changes to made born here. The staff of BB always read what we have to say about every topic.

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I'm agree with GM-Fotocopiador's comments. The random and lucky factor here was too big, and is unfair. Until now I was very pleased with the measures taken in the game, because they were all warned in time, and we can do somthign with time to avoid any dramatic change, and was fair for all. But this is something unexpected, furthermore, days ago was talking in this forum that this would be regulated just with time, and that make this MORE unexpected.

To finish my point, maybe a good idea is make this change forever. Let's keep the free agent market, money is always increasing, and they could serve as a self-regulating system.

(Sorry if I have grammatical faults, but my written english is not the best, I would say more but it would be repeating what others have said)



Last edited by Stratos at 10/4/2009 5:36:31 PM

The biggest problem with the return of Free Agency is that it WILL, in fact, reduce prices and slow down the inflation that has been making TL pretty uncertain.

But the clubs with deeper pockets - who have also the deep rosters - that are still gaining a shit load of money due to Arena selling will feel like paradise now: getting 2kk with the selling and shopping in a much more tight TL then we - second tier and lower teams, since up to now we were already fucked because we couldn't already compete with them at TL.

But with the Free Agency, teams like Tooroo, Sharman, Asingratos, Hostvar, div.I Italy, US and Spain will rape in 2-3 weeks.

the point of the news post was actually to try to clarify misunderstandings like the one you appear to have.

this should not be viewed as a salary reduction persay, meaning you should not expect that your team's salary costs are going to go down next season.... in fact if your players increase in skill there costs will go up... AT SOME point, the most that might happen, if you are a top team employing the top players, the salaries will stay constant even as the skills go up.

let me put it another way, there is now a certain level of income in the game, salaries will be matched to that income and TOTAL salaries (across the BB universe, not your individual team) are not going to rise significantly past next season.

So how do we know what the "certain level" is? Are you not going to tell us, or do you just not know yet? I understand what is going with the salaries clearly now.

On the other hand, I am not sure about the Free Agents. Are their players of teams that retired during the period when free agency was canceled still going to have the chance to be sold, or only players of teams that are going to retire in the future? Thanks

ned

the changes we have made to the economy due exactly the opposite of what you suggest here. We are going to design player salaries to be fixed and tuned to global income, so that salaries and revenue are explicitly tied together, so that we can assure long term economic stability. This free agent release we see as a short term measure addressing a short term problem, and we still have confidence in our long term plan. We did a poor job predicting how changes we made, and still believe were neccesary were going to affect the market.

Lets review for instance the arena decision. SOME top teams were building huge arenas and huge fan bases, if this continued we would see as you said "the same teams as top teams" all the time, and promoted teams would not be able to build an arena large enough quick enough to compete. So, we made it harder to fill larger arenas, and change the attendance formula such that overall teams earned about the same, but there was less of a spread in amount of income at top divisions. In doing so we felt it was unfair to teams that build huge arenas to change the rules and make their perfectly reasonable long term strategy a penalty, and so we allowed for the arenas deconstruction, which caused this temporary influx of extra cash into the system.

In addition, we announced changes in the marketing revenue, which did increase marketing revenue, but were offset in part by the increase in salaries.. remember previously we were reducing the revenue sharing tax as time went on to keep balance with rising salaries. This was not intended to inject a large amount of money into the system.

Rather than continue this game of raising revenue to match rising salaries, we decided long term it would be better to keep global salary costs more fixed, and so we announced this change to avoid having to announce other changes season after season and have a more constant set of rules. Some seem to have misinterpreted that salaries are going to be going down in the future, or that their specific teams salaries are not going to go up anymore, no matter what level they are competing at... and therefore believe they have more money to spend.

Each of these has led to a temporary fiscal and psychological impact on the market causing prices to rise.. and rise more than we expected, and we are concerned about the inevitable correction that will follow when the bubble bursts, and have thus taken action to rise to limit the size of the uptick in the bubble. We don't think that this action is a major action, but we do hope that it makes the market take a second look at the decisions they are making and reconsider their long term strategy.

Those who are upset at the fact that prices are going to fall because of the free agent release, i would say that prices were going to fall no matter what it was only a question as to from what height, and at what time. The realities of the economics were such that we were convinced we were looking at a bubble.. prices were rising at an unsustainable rate. we stepped in and put our foot down on the party.. not a popular move, but a move I think we all wish were done on the housing bubble before things got too bad. Or at least that is how we view it.

BB-F,
I think I am following what you are doing with the economy. So correct me if I am wrong with this summary:

1. The salary calculation is changing so that you can have a controlled amount of outflow for ALL teams. So if the total players salary in the game for all teams is say $1 billion (as example) this season, and based on incomes you might need to make the total salaries $1.1 billion. So the total would change some, and the distribution of that would go to all players based on their skill level. So training a player will more than likely raise their salary based on the fact that they move up in terms of where they are compared to all the players in BB. That is my understanding.

2. From BB comments the FA adding back into the game I think has to do with the reaction to number 1. where teams believe they have a surplus that the can spend based on perceived salary reduction (and also sales of arena seats). And this is done to slow the inflation of rising prices of players on the TL. So is this temporary? and will we know what the salary threshold is for FAs to retire or go to the TL?

I'm not sure if the FA thing will work out from my perspective since I am saving up to buy a player, but again you say this is long term, so we will wait and see.

i really dont mind the change if its going to fix what your trying to fix.

i just very upset and disadvantaged that we were given no notice.

i just spent all my money on upgrading my arena.
if i had some prior knowledge that free agents were coming back i would not have done that.
im very under powered for the div im in, getting a good free agent for a low price was not an option when i decided to upgrade my arena.
but now it is.

i dont expect prices to drop over night , but i can see the odd few free agents been sold under price, these are the players i would of jumped on, and imho would greatly increase my chances of staying up.

im not saying im disadvantaged in selling, im disadvantaged in buying.
my only problem really with what you guys are done is that there was no notice.

i love this game by the way, and like in real life i roll with what comes my way so i guess ill just adjust somehow lol