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Mate, what I'm saying is: ... My opinion is that a 'long time' (so hrudey will be happy since apparently he contests the 2 year mark) to train players to their potential and to build the arena would be way way ahead in a poll for new users than for seasoned users.

Don't you think we should ask new users what they think about the game and the reasons why they might quit?

Note that training players and building the arena are two completely different issues.

I agree with you that the opinions of new users are of interest; no long-time user speaks for new users as a group. And if the opinion of new users were to be that they want their success to happen easily and rapidly, at the expense of the rich interplay of gradual strategic features that currently enhance the game, then they can go find a game that gives them the immediate gratification that you seem to think they want. I think the BB's are smarter than that.

And there is people wondering why BBs are not participating in the community.

I don't wonder that. I wonder why you give the clowns center stage in so many discussions. I suppose they’re so loud and aggressive you almost have to.

Okay, you cannot develop an entire roster through in-house training. I have also seen it stated that you cannot develop an entire roster through the transfer list. The result: successful rosters are a mix of home-grown and pickups from the transfer list ... so where's the problem with that?

Actually most elite teams only build through the TL. As you progress through the ranks you will see less and less training. Your matter of fact responses as actual fact are laughable. There is a whole other side to BB you have yet to experience. This isn't meant to be demeaning, but you have hardly played this game long enough to have any opinions that are actual fact.

As you progress through the ranks you will see less and less training.

A large part of my teams success has been training.

Was bored playing Div 1 so brought 3 young trainees and demoted back to Div 2.

These 3 trainees after several seasons helped take the team to a whole new level

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 11/8/2014 4:23:37 AM

Speeding up training would be great imo. But what would that do with the game? Lots of things to think about before just doing a change like this.
Then the question is how easy the code is to change to. Some things are very complex as Marin and other BB's have explained.

I think the speed issue is easy enough. I think what would need to be considered is the tangental side effects and tweaks that would be needed as a consequence.

One side effect of faster training is the increased marginalization of lower potential levels, since those would cap that much faster than currently. And of course, given the current prevailing opinion of the draft as being only measurable in terms of the number of 18 year olds with MVP+ potential as is, this would be even more extreme.

Another side effect would be the increase in the escalation of young player salary compared to current. Of course, that wouldn't be a concern if we were certain that players would never train players who become unaffordable to them, but that's currently not the case.

I'd think that an increase in training speed in general is a good idea, but I'd rather see it targeted more as a rebalance of training altogether. Certainly the speed of 1v1, combined with how many players can receive training in it, is something that should be addressed, as is the absolute snail's pace training of JR.