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Don't talk me about prediction on the market because it's my second work :-) so I know how market works in real life and on BB I could imagine the same... when investigations are depth, market work good with minimal adjustments and... re-introduction of FA is not minimal and moreover not budgeted

Then you should know the devil is in the details. I missed where the BB's announced the details on this round of free agency, particularly what salary/skill threshold will be. I mean, that would be important information to determine that FA is going to drastically reduce the price of players. Can you point me to those details?

Then you should know the devil is in the details. I missed where the BB's announced the details on this round of free agency, particularly what salary/skill threshold will be. I mean, that would be important information to determine that FA is going to drastically reduce the price of players. Can you point me to those details?

Can you? If not... allow people who knows to answer to my point of view. You seem very aggressive to me and many other and you seem a little bit out of range with your answers.

If BB-Charles or some BB interested will answer to my latest post I will be glad.

Thank you, bye

Another change during the season? Oh men, you must be kidding. So, managers who are getting the doble of money for their players, can buy now for less money when Free Agents are on the market? This must be another joke. I don´t really understand why you always do this kind of stuff. IMO you´re taking very bad decisions cause they´re really unfair for loads of managers.

If the market is so high:

-Check most of transactions to be sure there is no cheat.
-Let the market flow (You made a mistake with incoming money this season, ok, but let it the whole season)


I´m really dissapointed at this point :(

Last edited by Mr.Mac at 10/4/2009 4:57:07 PM

I'd re-read this thread from the beginning for a bit of perspective. My angle is I think this will be a good move that will have an effect somewhere between slowing inflation and slight deflation. There's not enough information out to come to the conclusion that this will have any more effect then that. Since there's really not much good from continuing with high inflation, then there's not a lot of risk here.

Yet many here seem to think this is a major change. Why?

Last edited by brian at 10/4/2009 4:58:46 PM

As GM-Fotocopiatior said, this is becoming a "lucky game" and not a "think on what you should do to improve game". The incoming money was really shock for us and made training and cup tournament less worthy. I saw some sellings in my league close to be a cheat and I´m really dissapointed because I think the work I did last seasons became useless...

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I´m running out of faith :(

Last edited by Mr.Mac at 10/4/2009 5:19:35 PM

I don't hear very many in here making up sad stories about them.

just because it is useless to come here in BB-global and say something.

I'm sorry but this isn't true. A lot of changes to made born here. The staff of BB always read what we have to say about every topic.

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I'm agree with GM-Fotocopiador's comments. The random and lucky factor here was too big, and is unfair. Until now I was very pleased with the measures taken in the game, because they were all warned in time, and we can do somthign with time to avoid any dramatic change, and was fair for all. But this is something unexpected, furthermore, days ago was talking in this forum that this would be regulated just with time, and that make this MORE unexpected.

To finish my point, maybe a good idea is make this change forever. Let's keep the free agent market, money is always increasing, and they could serve as a self-regulating system.

(Sorry if I have grammatical faults, but my written english is not the best, I would say more but it would be repeating what others have said)



Last edited by Stratos at 10/4/2009 5:36:31 PM

The biggest problem with the return of Free Agency is that it WILL, in fact, reduce prices and slow down the inflation that has been making TL pretty uncertain.

But the clubs with deeper pockets - who have also the deep rosters - that are still gaining a shit load of money due to Arena selling will feel like paradise now: getting 2kk with the selling and shopping in a much more tight TL then we - second tier and lower teams, since up to now we were already fucked because we couldn't already compete with them at TL.

But with the Free Agency, teams like Tooroo, Sharman, Asingratos, Hostvar, div.I Italy, US and Spain will rape in 2-3 weeks.

the point of the news post was actually to try to clarify misunderstandings like the one you appear to have.

this should not be viewed as a salary reduction persay, meaning you should not expect that your team's salary costs are going to go down next season.... in fact if your players increase in skill there costs will go up... AT SOME point, the most that might happen, if you are a top team employing the top players, the salaries will stay constant even as the skills go up.

let me put it another way, there is now a certain level of income in the game, salaries will be matched to that income and TOTAL salaries (across the BB universe, not your individual team) are not going to rise significantly past next season.

So how do we know what the "certain level" is? Are you not going to tell us, or do you just not know yet? I understand what is going with the salaries clearly now.

On the other hand, I am not sure about the Free Agents. Are their players of teams that retired during the period when free agency was canceled still going to have the chance to be sold, or only players of teams that are going to retire in the future? Thanks

ned

the changes we have made to the economy due exactly the opposite of what you suggest here. We are going to design player salaries to be fixed and tuned to global income, so that salaries and revenue are explicitly tied together, so that we can assure long term economic stability. This free agent release we see as a short term measure addressing a short term problem, and we still have confidence in our long term plan. We did a poor job predicting how changes we made, and still believe were neccesary were going to affect the market.

Lets review for instance the arena decision. SOME top teams were building huge arenas and huge fan bases, if this continued we would see as you said "the same teams as top teams" all the time, and promoted teams would not be able to build an arena large enough quick enough to compete. So, we made it harder to fill larger arenas, and change the attendance formula such that overall teams earned about the same, but there was less of a spread in amount of income at top divisions. In doing so we felt it was unfair to teams that build huge arenas to change the rules and make their perfectly reasonable long term strategy a penalty, and so we allowed for the arenas deconstruction, which caused this temporary influx of extra cash into the system.

In addition, we announced changes in the marketing revenue, which did increase marketing revenue, but were offset in part by the increase in salaries.. remember previously we were reducing the revenue sharing tax as time went on to keep balance with rising salaries. This was not intended to inject a large amount of money into the system.

Rather than continue this game of raising revenue to match rising salaries, we decided long term it would be better to keep global salary costs more fixed, and so we announced this change to avoid having to announce other changes season after season and have a more constant set of rules. Some seem to have misinterpreted that salaries are going to be going down in the future, or that their specific teams salaries are not going to go up anymore, no matter what level they are competing at... and therefore believe they have more money to spend.

Each of these has led to a temporary fiscal and psychological impact on the market causing prices to rise.. and rise more than we expected, and we are concerned about the inevitable correction that will follow when the bubble bursts, and have thus taken action to rise to limit the size of the uptick in the bubble. We don't think that this action is a major action, but we do hope that it makes the market take a second look at the decisions they are making and reconsider their long term strategy.

Those who are upset at the fact that prices are going to fall because of the free agent release, i would say that prices were going to fall no matter what it was only a question as to from what height, and at what time. The realities of the economics were such that we were convinced we were looking at a bubble.. prices were rising at an unsustainable rate. we stepped in and put our foot down on the party.. not a popular move, but a move I think we all wish were done on the housing bubble before things got too bad. Or at least that is how we view it.