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From: Paul George

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/16/2025 3:08:26 PM
Rajdersi
III.11
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Rajdersi II
I can send invites for all my games.

Problem might occur if two teams with low qty of tokens will play together......
Or am I wrong?

From: Wagner

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Date: 3/16/2025 5:33:54 PM
Wagner College
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I do really like the idea of a fixed time, I am Eastern USA Time, but I dont mind if the game is at a odd time, I probably wont be watching it live anyway, My BB time is limited.

But I am for sure in favor of a BB designated time.

I would 100% support Commish @Wagners decision of what that time is.

Thanks very much, T-Lit, for your trust and giving opinion straight away! :)
It always speeds up things when people openly state their opinion ASAP (they have made up their mind)... Let's hear what others think of designated time for matches!?
The more I think of it the more I personally like it.

Last edited by Wagner at 3/16/2025 6:45:20 PM

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Date: 3/16/2025 5:45:29 PM
Wagner College
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Only 2 to go after you volunteered!
So you meant that if one team would become "a challenger" (which takes 15 tokens), that doesn't have that many tokens?

That would truly be a problem... And that's why we try to find volunteers (2 more).
If we won't find volunteers, then we need to likely resort with the old plan, so that everybody sends half of their challenges. But I still think it streamlines things if half of us would do that, and other half just accepts all the offers. Now that the responsibility is shared, it's more complicated and especially more prone to errors in some sense.

Also, it would be way more arduous to edit league schedule with BB forum text editor tools, whereas if we choose 8 challengers-option, we can just mark those responsible for sending challenges to a team name list with a simple sign, such as *C* (or whatever we'd choose to use).

From: Deano25

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/16/2025 10:02:25 PM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
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Heywood Lions
I can do this

From: Chucarro

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Date: 3/16/2025 10:48:42 PM
Club Trouville
II.1
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Thanks Wagner
BTW i have 140 tokens so i can send challenges


From: MrJ
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Date: 3/17/2025 3:45:51 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Westopian Tigers
We needed 8 managers to do this for this method to be viable.

Already Volunteered:
1. Wagner
2. MrJ
3. Gccsteel
4.T-Lit
5. Moneta
6. Deano25
7. Paul George
8. Chucarro

We have 8!

Thank you everyone for responding so quickly.

Wagner, this method could work now. My suggestion: We would need...

1. The above 8 managers to organise every one of their PU games against teams not listed above; and
2. Negotiate with those managers listed above as to who should organise that game.

Eg. I can organise PU games for all my matches. However, when challenging T-Lit, or you, or Deano25 etc etc, I would have to discuss with them and one of us needs to organise that game.

Unless my calculations are incorrect, we should cover every game in this way.

Furthermore, what we could do now is go to the post by T-Lit in the scores thread, and T-Lit could simply bold each of the 8 managers listed above. Then we could remind everyone that these managers will be organising the games and noone else needs to.

This is only a suggestion, Wagner.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/17/2025 4:19:35 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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Date: 3/17/2025 9:06:12 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Westopian Tigers
Speaking of development stages of HG teams...
One of the interesting things to compare, would be the average ages of players (of a team) that are in Top 5 (or Top 8, if we want it to be in reflection with Top8 players salaries), and on the other hand average age of players ranked from 6th to 12th (or from 9th to 12th).

It might provide us interesting background information on a stage team is currently in. Again, this is an additional layer of work and I'm not going to promise I'll get it done, but I wanted to throw it out for you guys to comment on.


When I do the top 8 salaries at the start of the season, I can also do the top 8 ages. As you say, it will be interesting info. I will upload that info shortly after the Game Shape reset into this thread. Then you can copy and paste it into the official thread, Wagner.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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Date: 3/17/2025 9:09:28 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
You're welcome, and you're welcome to the league as well! It's great to get a team from South America as well, and after this The Americas has even stronger representation in the HGL!

We are only missing a team from Asia (any Asian team possibly interested in joining HGL starting from Season 2?), and then we'd have teams participating from most parts of the world. Anyway, it is truly international league, so in that sense MrJs' suggestion for a league name (International Home-Grown League, IHGL) nailed the spirit of the league!


We can always do a revote or just go with my name! I'm joking of course.

So, Wagner, have you decided on the playoff format?

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/17/2025 9:13:15 AM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
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The age of a teams players is alot of information to get, do you need anything from us or are you able to use a program for it?

I will be considerably younger next season, I am starting a new batch of trainees, hoping for some good ones, we will see. It will be hard to make cuts, but I will have to release 3 players next season, 1 or 2 may be a rotational player that just has not gotten his groove yet....

Fun times! :-)

From: MrJ

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Date: 3/17/2025 9:22:11 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Westopian Tigers
The age of a teams players is alot of information to get, do you need anything from us or are you able to use a program for it?

I will be considerably younger next season, I am starting a new batch of trainees, hoping for some good ones, we will see. It will be hard to make cuts, but I will have to release 3 players next season, 1 or 2 may be a rotational player that just has not gotten his groove yet....

Fun times! :-)


Does sound fun. I'm ok if you field a very young lineup in our game

Seriously though, I agree, it will be a lot of info. I can't even use Buzzer Manager as the HGL isn't a formally recognised league by the program. This means doing it manually. I will see how I go. Doing the Top 8 salaries will be easy enough and somewhat time-consuming. But it will be great data. The Top 8 ages might be a little more challenging, especially if managers are firing and changing their lineups while I'm collecting the data.

Anyway, let's see how we go. I love data so it would be some nice info to have.

As for the draft, I have 2 x 5/5 draftees lined up and I am the first human picking behind 4 BOTS. I just hope none of those BTOS claim my Number 1 and Number 2 picks. Both could be franchise players for the club.

I know by posting that info in this thread I am potentially letting the other teams in my league know that it is worth using some draft points, but I'm ok with securing one of those 2 picks. It would feel greedy getting both.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/17/2025 9:25:29 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/17/2025 9:32:14 AM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
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7676
I hope you get both! :-)

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