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From: Monēta

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Date: 3/16/2025 1:24:30 PM
Lielupes Melnās Sirdis
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
255255
Second Team:
BK Zaļie Knaģi
if you need manager with tokens, i can use them for HGL

From: Wagner

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Date: 3/16/2025 1:44:48 PM
Wagner College
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I dont know much about PU Games, can we schedule multiple pickup games at a time? Or do we have to wait till one is over to schedule it?

Like, could I go ahead and send out all my invites now, so I dont have to worry about it in the future?

Just I Wonder questions. :-)

Frankly, I'm joining the club as I have only so much experience with PU games. Excellent question indeed, which needs our immediate attention (or contact to BB devs/owners) as the core idea is to organize all regular season matches in one short time window.

But note for all managers:
Please do not start organizing matches (sending PU invitations) before we get everything sorted out in terms of deciding which format we'll use in sending challenges. It could be one of my propositions, in which case 8 of us would volunteer for sending all challenges and neither of the rest would need to do it.


An important note and question is made throughout the rest of the post, @everyone:


At the moment, all times between 00.01-23.59 are possible times for organizing matches, due to being able to organize some matches in relatively convenient times (if one would want to follow match life etc.). However, the person who sends the challenge has the control on when match takes place unless a specified time when match starts is being given by HGL.

Now on the other hand this is a bit problematic, as if one team would send all his challenges, he would have control over match times unless we can agree an exact time (for instance 4.30PM EET, Eastern European Time, etc.) when match takes place. 4.30 PM EET would be approximately 5.30-9.30AM in USA, 10.30AM in Uruguay, and 10.30PM-12.30AM in Australia.

In one sense, having a fixed time for each match would solve the issue somewhat equally. The problem is though, that we are positioned all over the world from Americas to Europe to Australia, so fixed time would be somewhat compromise to all.

On a positive note though, fixed time match would make it easier in two reasons: time is already known beforehand, so nobody would complain that 'the teams that send me challenges constantly choose awkward times'.

Also, having a fixed time for match would also create a routine/standard for the league, and very/most importantly, would make it impossible to make a rematch if some managers would be into it, for, let me just say, for "various reasons".

From: T-Lit
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Date: 3/16/2025 1:56:03 PM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
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7676
I do really like the idea of a fixed time, I am Eastern USA Time, but I dont mind if the game is at a odd time, I probably wont be watching it live anyway, My BB time is limited.

But I am for sure in favor of a BB designated time.

I would 100% support Commish @Wagners decision of what that time is.

From: Wagner

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Date: 3/16/2025 2:22:23 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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Thanks Moneta, only 3 to go then. :)

From: Paul George

To: MrJ
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324689.482 in reply to 324689.465
Date: 3/16/2025 3:08:26 PM
Rajdersi
III.11
Overall Posts Rated:
5555
Second Team:
Rajdersi II
I can send invites for all my games.

Problem might occur if two teams with low qty of tokens will play together......
Or am I wrong?

From: Wagner

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Date: 3/16/2025 5:33:54 PM
Wagner College
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I do really like the idea of a fixed time, I am Eastern USA Time, but I dont mind if the game is at a odd time, I probably wont be watching it live anyway, My BB time is limited.

But I am for sure in favor of a BB designated time.

I would 100% support Commish @Wagners decision of what that time is.

Thanks very much, T-Lit, for your trust and giving opinion straight away! :)
It always speeds up things when people openly state their opinion ASAP (they have made up their mind)... Let's hear what others think of designated time for matches!?
The more I think of it the more I personally like it.

Last edited by Wagner at 3/16/2025 6:45:20 PM

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324689.484 in reply to 324689.482
Date: 3/16/2025 5:45:29 PM
Wagner College
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Only 2 to go after you volunteered!
So you meant that if one team would become "a challenger" (which takes 15 tokens), that doesn't have that many tokens?

That would truly be a problem... And that's why we try to find volunteers (2 more).
If we won't find volunteers, then we need to likely resort with the old plan, so that everybody sends half of their challenges. But I still think it streamlines things if half of us would do that, and other half just accepts all the offers. Now that the responsibility is shared, it's more complicated and especially more prone to errors in some sense.

Also, it would be way more arduous to edit league schedule with BB forum text editor tools, whereas if we choose 8 challengers-option, we can just mark those responsible for sending challenges to a team name list with a simple sign, such as *C* (or whatever we'd choose to use).

From: Deano25

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/16/2025 10:02:25 PM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
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180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I can do this

From: Chucarro

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Date: 3/16/2025 10:48:42 PM
Club Trouville
II.1
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Thanks Wagner
BTW i have 140 tokens so i can send challenges


From: MrJ
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Date: 3/17/2025 3:45:51 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
We needed 8 managers to do this for this method to be viable.

Already Volunteered:
1. Wagner
2. MrJ
3. Gccsteel
4.T-Lit
5. Moneta
6. Deano25
7. Paul George
8. Chucarro

We have 8!

Thank you everyone for responding so quickly.

Wagner, this method could work now. My suggestion: We would need...

1. The above 8 managers to organise every one of their PU games against teams not listed above; and
2. Negotiate with those managers listed above as to who should organise that game.

Eg. I can organise PU games for all my matches. However, when challenging T-Lit, or you, or Deano25 etc etc, I would have to discuss with them and one of us needs to organise that game.

Unless my calculations are incorrect, we should cover every game in this way.

Furthermore, what we could do now is go to the post by T-Lit in the scores thread, and T-Lit could simply bold each of the 8 managers listed above. Then we could remind everyone that these managers will be organising the games and noone else needs to.

This is only a suggestion, Wagner.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/17/2025 4:19:35 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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Date: 3/17/2025 9:06:12 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Speaking of development stages of HG teams...
One of the interesting things to compare, would be the average ages of players (of a team) that are in Top 5 (or Top 8, if we want it to be in reflection with Top8 players salaries), and on the other hand average age of players ranked from 6th to 12th (or from 9th to 12th).

It might provide us interesting background information on a stage team is currently in. Again, this is an additional layer of work and I'm not going to promise I'll get it done, but I wanted to throw it out for you guys to comment on.


When I do the top 8 salaries at the start of the season, I can also do the top 8 ages. As you say, it will be interesting info. I will upload that info shortly after the Game Shape reset into this thread. Then you can copy and paste it into the official thread, Wagner.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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