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Hi,
i answer you directly because i think the lack of competion is the main issue of BB.

my background: i'm not a newbie, i played in the past. when i started around season 3/4, more than 10 of my friends joined the game. we had a nt manager, some high levels teams in italy, we had some of the best trained player in italy ( ex. Fanesi).
At the time, you could join and start immediatly play in a league where u could win or lose games.


Look at my situation since i joined.

I've played, i believe, in a quite good way since now. Tanked when i could, won a playout series to stay 1 season more in IV, tanked the season after because i couldn't compete, in the meanwhile building up Arena and young quality players for high income. Then i finished in a league full of bot. And i 'm winning all the games, paying more or less the floor for players.

How many competitive games have i played?
5 in 2 season?
How do you think a new user could keep playing the game this way? ( i mean someone that has never played that before )
Playing in a really good way don't let u compete for more than half a year. How the h**l a person is not going to quit?

BBs are putting a lot of effort on trying to save this game.
But, i think, they are putting a lot of energy in the wrong way.
A soft merge will probably fix a little the economic problem and few players will have more competition.
Maybe we are going to save 10 or 100 or 500 account for that.
But the biggest problem i think, with the actual leagues division, people are not going to keep playing ( and the people that creates new account are just really few).

We need to create an enviroment, where when people join, can compete sooner than actually. we need to attract new people and let them stay in the game.

That 's why i think a full merge is the only way to save the game in the future.

About NT:
For sure, u can keep the nationality of your players, and keep NT that way. I dislike nationalism a lot and i think there should be no place for that especially in a game. A game should be an occasion to meet new people and new culture. But if people want to keep showing their proud about where they come from, we should let them.


Last edited by FalloPalani at 4/15/2016 4:45:12 AM

A possible merger affects like 5% of the current managers. We can afford to lose a bunch of them.

This is a fantastic post. Competing sooner than later for new teams. The biggest issue in BB is the real life time of training. So these new teams get franchise guys to train but it will still take two full calendar years to train them up. Just to be fairly viable. I know this post is completely off topic but hopefully it plants a seed. The real life time it takes to train is insane. I don't know why I am doing it again. National pride I suppose.

Anyway. Great post brother.

Thank you for your feedback!

I am sorry if my post looks so off-topic and i know the discussion about the full merge has been moved in suggestion (so GM sorry again :P).
I m not complaining about the speed of the game ( but new users will probably, the world and the net is way faster now than when bb was projected and created). I like also the training system, the effort and the waiting u have to put to see results.

One of the main reason, probably the main one, to merge the micronation is to create more competition for them.
I think the real lack of competition is for the new users and the only way to make them compete sooner without touching anything about training speed/ system is to let them play against each other. With so few users joining the game each day, it's really hard for them to finish in a league where they have some teams to compete with. We have to many leagues in relation of the users are joining. Maybe there are better solution, but we are talking about merging. And merging means less leagues so more possibilities to create leagues with teams with similar level. So maybe we should think about merging more than is actually proposed in this topic:D

Just my 2 cents


Last edited by FalloPalani at 4/15/2016 4:05:10 AM

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Reason being that your in D.5 with a LOT of active teams ahead of you

Div V is full of bots.
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I'm sure you in a very short while(bb time wise) will be competing with teams of the same strength as your self.

For sure. the problem is how many users would have keep playing after 6 months of non competion.
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I don't know but perhaps you would have done so already if you wouldn't have tanked down to D.5.

Actually i spent all the money to try to don't be relegated at the begin of the last season, but my arena was not big enough to sustain my roster (even economy), i was losing most of the games anyway and i was paying the less i could specialist.
Keep in mind also i knew how shape and enthusiasm are working and which players are usefull or not.
Maybe i haven't done everything perfect but i doubt a complete new user could have done better.
I don't think many of the new users keep playing also in really big community like italian one.
I agree completly when u say that the situation is worst for micronation. But it's not good enough in the bigger nations too let new users keep playing:D

Last edited by FalloPalani at 4/15/2016 4:47:52 AM

A possible merger affects like 5% of the current managers. We can afford to lose a bunch of them.

How can you know this? Please explain the "5%" with a complete merge??

It might just be the lack of competition/possibillities that is the main challenge for BB right now. I am also in favor of a full merge, and at least the micro/semi-micro nations.

In the JimboJambos example above he will be promoted and have a go in the above league every season, until he manages to stay there. So he will get first draft pick every other season. Micro nations don't. It is interesting to hear that the income for div V is so bad. Perhaps an extra set of measures, implemented at the same time, in combination could help, instead of trying out one idea at a time:

a) Merge

b) Limiting attendance even more, throughout the divisions. To make a more even playground for new teams. You could have a big arena, but you are not able to fill it until you are in the upper divisions. So teams relegating will have to adapt quickly, until they are able to promote again. Next season when the next teams relegates, they to will have to adapt. This will force teams to sell and buy players more often.

c) Give a much bigger promotion bonus, so the upper divisions will have to struggle more to keep the newly promoted teams down, thereby spending more of their money. This could help in taking a bite of the account of super rich teams, and also make the promotion/relegation teams more diverse. The teams promoting will have a chance to stay in division, instead of almost automatic relegation as it is now.