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Date: 1/14/2014 3:30:25 PM
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I don't know why non supporters insist that they are somehow in disadvantage with this. This game is running because of the supporter money, if only there were more supporters... It's definitely not a pay to win game, as another poster suggested.

Generally there are 4 groups of people opposed to this suggestion:

1. I understand people who simply don't want foreigners in their country. But if it's going to help BB development, they should sacrifice that bit?
2. I'm so-so with people afraid of competition. It's somewhat unfair, and they have right to be upset, about the gameplay getting more difficult for them. However, that's quite.. embarrassing. I mean, foreigners would be starting from scratch, if you have a larger arena, and already a strong position, why feel so intimidated?
3. I have zero respect to the third group, people who don't have supporter, and simply don't like supporters getting an additional option. So much about the human nature. As I said, the game is running on supporter money.. Please don't be jealous.
4. Cheating-paranoids. Self explanatory.

Last edited by Aleksandar at 1/14/2014 3:32:11 PM

From: Marko

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Date: 1/14/2014 3:47:12 PM
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Bearing in mind Lithuania has only 3 million people, comparing with other countries like JAV, Italy, Spain, still pretty impressive:)
I never thought other nations could be so competitive. Good luck!

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Date: 1/14/2014 4:22:01 PM
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So all in all, summing up your long response, that would require a lot of time/work invested in engine's coding. Okay. Let's say second teams are placed on other countries. Micronations would be filled with managers from all over the world, if it's good for micro-managers, it's good for me, especially if BuzzerBeater receives additional funds from Supporters. What about macronation managers who want to compete only against managers from their country? Come to terms with destiny?

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254079.393 in reply to 254079.386
Date: 1/14/2014 6:02:32 PM
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Generally there are 4 groups of people opposed to this suggestion:

1. I understand people who simply don't want foreigners in their country. But if it's going to help BB development, they should sacrifice that bit?
2. I'm so-so with people afraid of competition. It's somewhat unfair, and they have right to be upset, about the gameplay getting more difficult for them. However, that's quite.. embarrassing. I mean, foreigners would be starting from scratch, if you have a larger arena, and already a strong position, why feel so intimidated?
3. I have zero respect to the third group, people who don't have supporter, and simply don't like supporters getting an additional option. So much about the human nature. As I said, the game is running on supporter money.. Please don't be jealous.
4. Cheating-paranoids. Self explanatory.


Are there categories for those in favor of the proposition?

Lets not forget that the game, since day one, has been a free online game that started running with ZERO subscription supporters.
So i don't believe, unless stated otherwise, that it runs on supporter money. I do believe though, that its improvements have lots to do with the users contributions.

Btw, cheating paranoids? Seriously?
Could you be a bit more explanatory on this one, please? You mean cheating doesn't exist or something else? Please explain what you mean, because by definition the word "paranoid" is pretty strong if not unacceptable.

Finally, there should be a 5th category, consisting of myself, cause i believe i am the only one who is opposed to the proposition, believing that if BBs intend, by other actions, to raise the userbase in the near future, secondary teams(of experienced managers) in lower divisions would be discouraging newcomers to stay in the game and consequently become supporters.

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Date: 1/14/2014 6:09:25 PM
Social Security Kings
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I've been supporter almost from the first day I played (started playing in season 2) and I wouldn't bother with a second team, but I still think the option should be available to those that are willing to support the game.

Last edited by IKnowZip at 1/14/2014 6:10:28 PM

From: Ray C.
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Date: 1/14/2014 6:14:24 PM
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I like the idea. However, if I am going to have a second team, I want to use it to develop my talent. Look, even Barcelona and Bayern Munich have "B" sides in order to develop their talent. I do understand that this is to help build up nations that have 4-5 players. I would really like to see Reserve leagues set up so we can better get our trainees necessary playing time, with a free transfer in order to swap in/out talent between the parent club and the B side.

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