No you're right, LeBron is a straight up bum. Will never amount to anything. Apparently the athletes of today's NBA are complete garbage. I mean if you're just gonna argue championships then that's all you. Can't deny LeBron doesn't have any, that's a fact. But players seem to become much more "legendary" after they retire. People act like MJ, Magic, Dr. J, Bird etc. all were completely unstoppable. You can say MJ dominated the league, he did, he also didn't have to play against a 6'9" 260 lb. powerhouse. Not saying that LeBron would shut him down every play but it seems like all of you think that LeBron is just this big lumbering Shawn Bradley reincarnation. And you can say if you put MJ into LeBron's situation that he would have won 2 or 3 championships that's all well and good. But what if you reversed the situation? LeBron probably would have drove that Chicago team into the ground right? Psyke. And c'mon with this LeBron chokes in the finals garbage. He's had one team that was good enough to get there, this previous years team. The other team's he's been on would have been terrible if it wasn't for him. Sorry his rotation defense after multiple teammates blew it wasn't up to your standards. Don't come at me with this "I watched every game" bull ish. So did I. Every minute. To say LeBron doesn't play good D is crazy. And about this him giving up thing, if you had to carry a team for 7 years with zero help you might get a little upset when all of your teammates are just not good enough to get it done. The fact that people aren't comfortable giving him his due justice just proves how good he is. You really think everyone was just digging MJ? Nope. There won't be another MJ because of his attitude I'll give you that. But saying LeBron won't be one of the greats is just disrespect. All of you can't honestly think that LeBron won't win championships. He's 8 years in, still in his prime and has the best team in the league. You're all right, he has zero chance to be great.