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And obviously I think it is important that this site continues to become more widespread to the free users. Hopefully the countries that do not have many users continue to spread the word because those are obviously important to keep alive and well.

I know that the site has been decreasing in users, I think it is a natural slump.

But I think that this site should keep dreaming of a better future here on BB with at least a hundred thousand users.

No rush, but I know it can happen someday, this site is a rare gem.

Last edited by Tong Tong Gong at 1/13/2014 8:44:57 PM

Good point ex league mate... But still- you make a really good point about BB. It will get there because hard work pays off

I feel like having two teams won't make or break someones decision on becoming a supporter.

This despite the fact that there have been a number people in this very thread who have said exactly that being able to have a second team would get them to pay for supporter.

Not that many people have said they would- a few said they would but lots more said they would if they had the option to make a one time payment..

Even though I am not a supporter at the moment, I would support this change on 1 condition. And that is for creating one huge league structure (Utopia League) instead of the current league structure based on the country. There are too many things that could go wrong if the current structure existed.

I only disagree with "9. B3 restriction". I see no reason to keep those teams out. Otherwise, go for it.

Personally, I agree with everything here, except, I think that you shouldn't have to be a supporter to have the secondary team. I think that to start the team, you should be a supporter, but I think when it runs out, you should still be able to keep your team.

I voted "yes" because i like the general idea of having a second team.
The problems several users mentioned are obviously there, especially concerning national team farms.

(Work in Progress:)

I would like the idea of an internatioal (women-)league.

Leagues:
Let's say we pick continental leagues. Every european manager is able to generate a team in "europe" (wow what a sentense) and same for every other continent (or other meaningful combinations of countries)
All these teams play together in a league-system with (let's say) 4 or 5 divisions. All teams should start in the lowest division and the bots from the higher divisions get replaced by promotion (up to all 4 semi final participants as long as there are bots to replace).

Draft:
Draft works same way as with the normal (male) leagues exept with additional multiple citizenship. (additional to the teams country also an additional random citizenship). This would provide interesting combinations for national teams. (temporary idea: As long as no non-scrim national game is played for a player both nationalites may call said player into their respective team.)
If a league consists of "x" teams from country "a" and "y" teams from country "b" ..... then there should be x players with secondary nationality "a" and accordingly y players with sec. nationality "b" .....
Additionaly 16 players get random (depending on continent) secondary nationalities. This would make up to 2/3 of all the players multi-cultural.
With this system even smaller countries without many users can get their own national team going.

Trade:
As there are just female players in the additonal continental leagues the players can't be traded to regular teams. But can be bought form secondary-team to secondary-team.

National Champion:
Naturally there won't be a normal national champion because there can only be one champ. National Champion should be the highest ranked team all over the devisions. If the extreme rare case should occur that 2 teams in the same division (let's say one in III.2 and one in III.6) got the same winratio and the same point difference then the worldrank determines the national champ.

I welcome every kind of input!

Personally, I agree with everything here, except, I think that you shouldn't have to be a supporter to have the secondary team. I think that to start the team, you should be a supporter, but I think when it runs out, you should still be able to keep your team.

That would be a horrible idea. Then people would only pay for supporter once just to get the secondary team. The whole point of this idea is to increase and more importantly retain BB's revenue, not decrease it. Supporters should be continually paying to keep that secondary team.


Last edited by Chiragudin at 1/13/2014 9:14:21 PM

An opinion coming from a non-supporter.
A 60% vote seems to be a high percentage of the total. To me this seems like a strong majority vote. I put my support for the idea.

Why I believe having two teams will improve the game:
Will allow for more competitive smaller nations.
Will give older users the fun of re-creating a team.

The only suggestion I have is to allow the user to choose which B3 team he gets to use if he has two qualify rather than restricting B3. Why? Because I believe competition will improve the micronations rather than hurt them. Also, some people may take 15+ seasons to reach B3 level in large nations, while in small nations in may only take 8+ seasons. All in all the greater competition will lead to more users in micronations which I believe will help the user community more than hurt. I am a firm believer in competition making the game more fun even if it means a foreigner may end up as the top team. However, if it truly becomes an issue, you could set a term limit on how many times a team can be in the B3 consecutively.

One other suggestion would be to allow micronations to have up to 15 non-users for one user so as to create a full Div I. Mainly this is to provide each micronation at least 1 competitive division. This should attract more users overtime IMO.

Other than that, I believe this will improve competitiveness overall. So I think its a great idea.