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From: Knecht

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Pretty much this.

Hupfingatschs solution to everything would be an expansion of the BBB competition, which of course would be so much better for everything.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Hi. I copied my friend's comment because I agreed with him completely. I am totally against the merge and I'll leave the game if this happens. By doing this, you changing the game's real shape and form and you're making it worthless. Instead, you could tweak somethings about the game so that teams can become strong and powerful sooner and quicker than it is right now. Unfortunately, BB has lost many of its users because of bad policies and BB is destroying itself right now by doing this merge. From another view, I believe that the quality of users are more important rather than the quantity. Even with its low user number, Iran has had championships on B3 level and in NT competitions, which shows the abilities and cleverness of its managers. This is why I believe that including Iran in this merge is not right. I think that with a little bit of advertising and by providing easier ways of buying Supporter in smaller countries, the game could gain a boost if the mentioned are combined with right policies. I believe that this merge will have a negative effect on BB and it will just help the decline of the game.

To BB's success...

From: ghunter

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I don't think there is a lack of competitiveness in small leagues especially as they can get that competitiveness in Utopia if they feel their league is lacking. As for the economic imbalance I don't think there is one. Surely if there was a major advantage more teams from micro-nations would win B3 however only 3 of the last 15 have come from nations of less than 100 users.

From: jonte

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I don't mean B3, I honestly don't even care much for this tournament. the imbalance is that the ratio of first leagues and lower leagues is off, due to so many leagues where only a first division exist.

there are 38 countries with less than 18 users. sure there are other countries with more registered users, which might also not complete a first division.

Also the lack of competitiveness is not only concerning high-end managers. If you start in a country like Germany, you start in a league with around 6-8 active new noobmanagers, some bots and maybe an old guy who is here forever and tanks because he is bored. they compete against each other in a very noobish way to promote to div III. I liked that part of the game, I made some friends there who still write me and wish me all the best when I promote.

How is it in a country with less than 18 users? You start in the first leagues and get lots of cash, but you still have to play against the top teams of your country. maybe there is only one team which sits on the throne for ages. I don't think it is fun. and I don't think you should pay for competitiveness and have to join utopia either.

Again, I am not speaking of countries like austria or iran. if they really want to stay independent there might be ground to argue for that. but those smaller countries of 36 or less users don't really have to have their own first divisions.

(but I shut up now. this is really non of my business...)

Last edited by jonte at 4/12/2016 1:13:48 PM

From: Yuck

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(but I shut up now. this is really non of my business...)


I don't know if you should shut up. You arguably make the most sense of anyone in this entire thread (from my perspective at least).

I think any country with less than 80 users should merge. It takes 80 teams to fill the first two divisions of a country. If you can't fill the top league and all of D2, then you should merge. One could make a point that they should make merger countries fill three divisions. The gravy train of easy cash needs to end. It is killing the economy.

From: mdex

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To me this threat makes no sense anymore......on the one hand side people from macro nations want to merge smaller countries, because they think that then their team will get a boost because the prices on the transfer market will go down and on the other hand side managers from micro nations don't want to merge, because they are mostly happy with the status quo.

I brought up the idea of merging all countries to form bigger nations....suddenly nobody comment on that because also the macro nation managers then fear of losing their league status.

I have no problem with merging but to be fair....it should not only affect the micro nations....I want all BB countries to merge....f.e. USA+CAN; Germany+Swiss+Austria; Belgium+Netherlands+Luxemburg, etc.

Last edited by mdex at 4/12/2016 2:22:15 PM

From: Knecht
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If the merger is impossoble to do, I'd be in favor of a new league structure. Like 1-1-2-2 or something like that, this would at least guarantee a full DIV 2 in my country (unless some more users quit).

Most complaints against a possible merger come from those who are well established, have access to B3 and fesr losing their pole position. In fact this should be encouraging to do some mergers...

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Joruus
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I really do not understand the managers who repeat at will that micro's managers are responsible for the inflation of the market. Since the beginning of BB, the micro's managers were there and surely more numerous than today. Although the economic issue is much more recent.
I am convinced that the inflation is due to the utopia's managers who know well the functionning of BB. A significant part of them decided to tank and concentrate money during their first seasons. They are the ones who most disturb the market with flooding quantities of money for the last two seasons.
Just compare the number of managers in each group : 1000 in utopia's vs around 400 in micro's. In addition I am pretty sure that the percentage of active managers who master the game is far higher in utopia than in micros.
To sum up, blaming the micro's managers for the economic pains is far too easy, and above all unfair and counterproductive.

From: Serip

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you have been in your countries top division every single season...wtf are you talking about dude you get the most money possible in the game and you dont even have to field a team to get it, how is this not an advantage?



What???

Friend, first of all you should look at the history of my team.
I'm playing from season 4 and not everything was a bed of roses.

:)



i take a look at your transfer list, you buy players and sell them always at half price (many one week after) and you pretend to lay in a bed of roses? :D you really have not idea about what mean play with income of IV/V serie where you most fight for save 10k




???????

Do you have seem my transfer list?? I think you have seen a wrong user .

And if i buy for x € and sell for y its mi problem

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