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Date: 4/12/2016 12:09:49 PM
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what i see a lot from you is fear of change

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Date: 4/12/2016 12:15:47 PM
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no, definitely not ..... but it should make sense for the majority of the users ;-)

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It should make sense from a fair, logical and abstract point of view. most of the users would probably just choose for their own gain. also lots of users might have quit because of the micronationproblem. many might come in the future and will have to live with the changes.. I mean if you would have a situation where everyone sits behind a veil of ignorance....but that is another story.

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From: Knecht

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Pretty much this.

Hupfingatschs solution to everything would be an expansion of the BBB competition, which of course would be so much better for everything.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Hi. I copied my friend's comment because I agreed with him completely. I am totally against the merge and I'll leave the game if this happens. By doing this, you changing the game's real shape and form and you're making it worthless. Instead, you could tweak somethings about the game so that teams can become strong and powerful sooner and quicker than it is right now. Unfortunately, BB has lost many of its users because of bad policies and BB is destroying itself right now by doing this merge. From another view, I believe that the quality of users are more important rather than the quantity. Even with its low user number, Iran has had championships on B3 level and in NT competitions, which shows the abilities and cleverness of its managers. This is why I believe that including Iran in this merge is not right. I think that with a little bit of advertising and by providing easier ways of buying Supporter in smaller countries, the game could gain a boost if the mentioned are combined with right policies. I believe that this merge will have a negative effect on BB and it will just help the decline of the game.

To BB's success...

From: ghunter

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I don't think there is a lack of competitiveness in small leagues especially as they can get that competitiveness in Utopia if they feel their league is lacking. As for the economic imbalance I don't think there is one. Surely if there was a major advantage more teams from micro-nations would win B3 however only 3 of the last 15 have come from nations of less than 100 users.

From: jonte

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I don't mean B3, I honestly don't even care much for this tournament. the imbalance is that the ratio of first leagues and lower leagues is off, due to so many leagues where only a first division exist.

there are 38 countries with less than 18 users. sure there are other countries with more registered users, which might also not complete a first division.

Also the lack of competitiveness is not only concerning high-end managers. If you start in a country like Germany, you start in a league with around 6-8 active new noobmanagers, some bots and maybe an old guy who is here forever and tanks because he is bored. they compete against each other in a very noobish way to promote to div III. I liked that part of the game, I made some friends there who still write me and wish me all the best when I promote.

How is it in a country with less than 18 users? You start in the first leagues and get lots of cash, but you still have to play against the top teams of your country. maybe there is only one team which sits on the throne for ages. I don't think it is fun. and I don't think you should pay for competitiveness and have to join utopia either.

Again, I am not speaking of countries like austria or iran. if they really want to stay independent there might be ground to argue for that. but those smaller countries of 36 or less users don't really have to have their own first divisions.

(but I shut up now. this is really non of my business...)

Last edited by jonte at 4/12/2016 1:13:48 PM

From: Yuck

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Date: 4/12/2016 1:39:48 PM
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(but I shut up now. this is really non of my business...)


I don't know if you should shut up. You arguably make the most sense of anyone in this entire thread (from my perspective at least).

I think any country with less than 80 users should merge. It takes 80 teams to fill the first two divisions of a country. If you can't fill the top league and all of D2, then you should merge. One could make a point that they should make merger countries fill three divisions. The gravy train of easy cash needs to end. It is killing the economy.

From: mdex

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Date: 4/12/2016 2:13:52 PM
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To me this threat makes no sense anymore......on the one hand side people from macro nations want to merge smaller countries, because they think that then their team will get a boost because the prices on the transfer market will go down and on the other hand side managers from micro nations don't want to merge, because they are mostly happy with the status quo.

I brought up the idea of merging all countries to form bigger nations....suddenly nobody comment on that because also the macro nation managers then fear of losing their league status.

I have no problem with merging but to be fair....it should not only affect the micro nations....I want all BB countries to merge....f.e. USA+CAN; Germany+Swiss+Austria; Belgium+Netherlands+Luxemburg, etc.

Last edited by mdex at 4/12/2016 2:22:15 PM

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