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From: A-Dub

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Date: 4/12/2016 3:51:30 AM
Upsyndrome
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That map should be re-titled: the world according to America, according to the world.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: xJeff85x

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Date: 4/12/2016 6:03:10 AM
Le Clan Des Raleurs
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Farm NT France
Do you take good decisions from time to time.

The only pleasure for a member of a large country like France is to train players of small nations, the market goes even explode, managers of small nations will stop the game and us.

Excuse me but you're very ill and your game gestionaires dies because of you.

Champion d'Europe et du monde NT saisons 57/58.
From: Knecht

To: mdex
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Date: 4/12/2016 6:16:54 AM
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What they do is form equal league (region) sizes and make a closed economic system for every league (region). Own transfer market, etc.


That would be the worst possible solution, we have too few players in the market right now, and segregating communities of ~1k users, would only aggrevate the problems.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Knecht

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adjustments to the leagues income/ avaibility
Decrease the income etc.: This would just make the game not enjoyable for first league micronation teams.


I rethought this. I think it might be a good adjustment. maybe one of the most intuitive. If a nation like Macedonia, Iran or Austria stays like it is, the division income could be fixed, so that the first division managers get less TV income and merch. maybe like a second division in a bigger country. It would solve most of the economic problems.

It won't solve the lack of competition.
It also will harm their national teams a lot, because they can't train high end players in their own leagues.

This might work for countries with 40-60+ managers, but not for countries that have less players. there are a lot countries with less than 10 players.

I think the best solution might be the one I proposed (Option 4) combined with the option of decreased income for nations that don't want to merge.

But that is just my impression. I think the way to go from here is to figure out with each nation for its own which path they want to go


I could own and pay up to three Austrian NT players, while still making a profit in DIV II. So the sustainability thing is really no issue. What will happen sooner than later is, that Austria will become a blowout NT-nation, because we lack solid players, simply because too few of our quality rookies receive training.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 4/12/2016 6:31:01 AM
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If the draft is really such a big issue, we should get rid of it as soon as we merge countries.

Under the current regime it makes much more sense to introduce youth squads anyways. At least from a real life comparsion it makes no sense to have a draft in leagues with vertical movement. Why would the next LeBron be drafted in a DIV IV AND be willing to play little leagues for the majority of his life?

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: mdex

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Date: 4/12/2016 8:19:11 AM
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What they do is form equal league (region) sizes and make a closed economic system for every league (region). Own transfer market, etc.


That would be the worst possible solution, we have too few players in the market right now, and segregating communities of ~1k users, would only aggrevate the problems.


Can you please explain to me why? If you fill all the region's with active managers to have in the end 5 DIVs and let them have their own eco system....where is the problem? You will have enough competition because you will have 5 DIVs. Money flow will also stay in the league so nobody can complain that all the good players are taking from other countries and prices are too high....NT teams will benefit because it is not so easy anymore to buy finished developed players...so you have to build your own....
I don't see the downside....the only thing i see is if somebody from Europe wants to have players from America...if they are not in the same region....this will not be possible anymore

Last edited by mdex at 4/12/2016 8:24:31 AM

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Date: 4/12/2016 8:33:49 AM
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you have been in your countries top division every single season...wtf are you talking about dude you get the most money possible in the game and you dont even have to field a team to get it, how is this not an advantage?



What???

Friend, first of all you should look at the history of my team.
I'm playing from season 4 and not everything was a bed of roses.

:)

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Date: 4/12/2016 9:05:32 AM
Greensboro Generals
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Merging nations is not a good idea, nice in principle not in practice. I've said it elsewhere and I will add it here, the thinking here is backwards, we should not be consolidating small countries but breaking up the big countries where a true small elite group holds much greater sway and where upward mobility is most hamstrung.

Here is my concept from a few months ago. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...


Last edited by Coach Lambini at 4/12/2016 9:09:09 AM

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