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254079.259 in reply to 254079.255
Date: 1/13/2014 1:14:53 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
1. Firing players - Last season, a Canadian team was created, bought one of our NT players (12460055), and immediately fired him. Since no one was willing to play 1mil for this guy, he was retired. The Canadian team never logged in again.


This is not possible - NT players cannot be fired
Besides these players are a dying breed, teams pick them up without knowing they can't fire them.
And new times are no longer allowed to buy such players
The guy sold for under $60k - If he was so important to the U.S. why didn't some patriotic American owner buy him for $70K?
Because he's useless and only serves to prop up NT, these guys NEED to be done away with

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254079.261 in reply to 254079.257
Date: 1/13/2014 1:20:32 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Same old BS
Do this and I'll become a supporter, Do that I'll become a supporter.
Don't do this, do that, don't do that, do this.
BS
Support this game because you like it and hope it helps in growing a game you like.
Selfish, selfish, selfish
And for the mostpart all who say these things will never become supporters
thanks all of you for nothing

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254079.262 in reply to 254079.259
Date: 1/13/2014 1:23:18 PM
Smallfries
II.1
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Second Team:
Smallfries II
Here is something to think about for all.

First, as mentioned, a one time fee leads to a very short term help financially. BB needs a residual income that they will see repeatedly.

Here is what I suggest be done:

Use a completely different site for the second teams. This site will run on the same exact game engine as the current one but would keep all cheating away. Also, it could either be linked to supporter on this site or it could be a pay-to-play site where it would be a little fee for each season played (this could be changed). This site will then be used to test further developments for buzzerbeater before it hits this site. This would allow for testing in competitive games and further discussions to help in the development of the game as well as involve the community even more. So if you want to truly help BB you can pay and have a say. There will still be leagues and national teams on this site just like the one now too.

This option not only gives people their second team, but also helps in the development of BB even more because they will make more money from those wanting another team, as well as everyone helping in the development and changes in the game.

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254079.263 in reply to 254079.259
Date: 1/13/2014 1:24:11 PM
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Obviously, he wasn't on the NT at the time. And yes, an American owned would have bought him for 70k if he knew he was gonna be sabotaged by a Canadian team. How are we supposed to know that? Then he sells for 1 mil in the offseason. He was something like this:

10/7/6/7/8/7 - 16/18/20/8

There are a lot of NT's that could use that player. Again, not a big deal for the USA, but there are a lot of players like this on other national teams. I'm sorry you think he's useless and needs to be "done away with" but a lot of national teams would disagree.

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254079.264 in reply to 254079.191
Date: 1/13/2014 1:27:30 PM
Essen Eagles
III.9
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Second Team:
Huttrop Hornets
I thought the supporter package does not give an advantage over a team that does not have one.
Idea, not solves the problem of outflow users . its not about the game its about the money.


A Supporter team has no advantage against a non-supporter team in the game itself. No strategic- or tactical advantage at any point, but the supporter package gives you some extra functions like federations, privat-leagues etc.

A second team would be a extra function.

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254079.266 in reply to 254079.264
Date: 1/13/2014 1:41:01 PM
Ametralladoras de Levante
III.11
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I think the only chance for giving the supporters the option to manage a second Team would be if this Team plays in, lets say a youth competition. In this case the promoción of net talents would be an option, other than receive the draftees every season. It should cost money to mantain this second Team, but it would be on the single player decission.

From: Billy
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254079.267 in reply to 254079.266
Date: 1/13/2014 1:44:52 PM
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I like the idea. I think it could help level the playing field for NT play. As the manger of the U21 Barbados NT I think having more teams in Barbados would help begin to develop better players for micro-nations like Barbados.

From: TimAG

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254079.268 in reply to 254079.1
Date: 1/13/2014 1:58:22 PM
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Enormously big thread from the point of discussing and consensus. Of course, I can tell you only about me, but I feel tired after 4 pages.
Neverminds.
The only way I can take second team idea - as long as it's open voting and concerns Supporters - as the Supporter, is junior league second team. I've seen that mentioned above and absolutely agree with this point.
I've got absolutely no idea why godforsaken I might be interested in second team in other country, instead. Yes, for sure, I can do that (means - I could do either we decide that), but it's more about toy-for-day. And again, we're talking about Supporter, we're talking about money. I don't want to spend my money to health of small nations leagues. Sorry, guys, but it's just not working nowhere, there's nothing personal - I love all and every country and human-beings around the world, but want to play in my country. Where I can show my friends my achievments.
Just check this twice: uuuuh, I got IV league of noone-knows-where championship. The only answer gonna be - so what. It might be also: where is it? Or What are you doing there. And sooner or later (but likely - sooner) I'll forget about second team. That's it.
Now, taking into consideration juniors second team. First, it's the same name and face bases. Second, the only difference from present engine is age; and skills somehow - of course youngsters get level-up a bit faster from every trainings, but it's only multiplication to existing engine. Three, avoiding transfers just for age flags; no cheating possible ever - have second team? Sorry man, you can't buy guys younger then 19 for your first team.
Of course, it's only my suggestions, even fantasy I'd say. I can see, it's not very well balanced, and faces some extra Q about draft, as well as leads us to change running BB engine. I clearly understand it. But, just IMHO, it's the only way second team might be interesting, at least to me. But also - look around at the real world - that's how things goes, big organisations, big franchise always has junior teams, because it worth.
Cheers!

From: Elmacca
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254079.269 in reply to 254079.268
Date: 1/13/2014 2:15:26 PM
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Only in favour if

- second teams play in BB Nation/Utopia, all starting together at the lowest required level. Say, Level III.

- BB Nation representatives are allowed in B3.

- No NT or U21 for BB Nation.

- Any player fired by BB Nation team becomes free agent listed at one week's salary.

- registration fee for second teams, $5 for supporters, $25 for non-supporters. Supporter package for second team available at $5 per season.

- Anybody currently playing in a micronation, whether supporter or not, given option to reset team and start in BB Nation instead for free.


Last edited by Elmacca at 1/13/2014 3:13:53 PM

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