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When it comes to pure individual talent, you're probably right. USA basketball has a much better pool of players than any other country (maybe even than the rest of the world combined!). But what recent history tells us is that having better individual talent isn't the only thing it takes to win, and that's why Spain and Argentina were successful.

But anyway, I think the global trend is encouraging. I think both the "rest of the world" leagues and countries are getting closer to the US. Having all those international players going against the best in the NBA also helps, and hopefully soon we will have more competitive international competition

compare the top 12 U.S. players Vs. The top 12

in this case you're probably right.

the U.S. wins 90 out of 100 times. Just my opinion though. in this case, you are not right. Foreign teams play much better as a team, and that is a quality to analyze players.

Nowitzki, Ginobili, Ming, Bodiroga, Divac...

Now, what about the foreign born players? Duncan, Olajuwon, Ewing, Wilkins were born oustide USA. Are they americans in your account?

Dream Team? Best team ever. Current USA team, very very good, but not that great.

You are right, there are many great European and even South American basketball players that are catching up.
I'd say the U.S top 12 would win about 70-75% of the time.

Just my 2 cents..... USA had a very bad cancer (streetball) growing from within that no one really truly understood. This has given other parts of the world to catch up knowledge wise. However, our talent pool is flowing over our cups. It other parts of the world players go pro as early as 14 yr old. in the US you can't turn pro until you are 1 yr out of high school. Keywords are out of high school. I believe the if I went throughout the USA and just picked 12 players that never make it to school and had the chance to showcase they're skills on a play level. We would still have a 60 to 40 percent chance to win if giving enough time to train and learn a system. I seen a lot of players that had the total package and due to some issues never got his chance to shine. Now saying that, with all these Americans going overs seas playing and having babies. The talent level will catch up in the next 20 or so years. EX: 1 of my best friends played in Iceland and had a son which is 10 right now and loves basketball.

This conversation has move completely away from my original question. Not even GM-Chihorn could tie it back together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WGagB60so

euro league pros are so good....

Uh.. getting back on topic... I too agree that the game engine somewhat penalizes high stamina players by having them play too many minutes, especially when decent backups are available and any good coach would also take weekly game shape into strategic consideration. Unfortunately, I think a post in the suggestions forum is our only recourse at the moment.

Not that great? We are talking Olympic team right not that team lead by KD. I would say that the Olympic team has atleast the best player in the world at each position except PF. Including the top 2 SG and SF. No other team in the world has close to the caliber of talent. And teams like Argentina and Spain those dudes play every year. The u.s. team gets together for a summer once every four years and dominates for the most part. Don't get fooled by that team of Rajon Rondo, KD, and that team of all NBA 8th team we put out there for FIBA.

I think you are right if we are in 1991 and we are talking about the original (and only) Dream Team.

I guess you didn't watch the las tournament in Turkey, where Usa had to play 150% just to win, and not by 50 points.

Kobe Bryant grew in Italy, Mike Brown spent a lot of time expanding his tactics in Europe, Poppovich came to Argentina to do the same... Any opinion is valid, you made your point. But I guess these guys know a litlle something about basket ;)

Now, comparing international players with kids, come on!! You can do better.

And google the last time USA won a tournament with "absolute domination", with an average of 30 points in win and lower the ego.

USA is the best team, but doesn't prove it as it should. And the world has improved, and made that difference much smaller than 2 decades ago.