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324689.227 in reply to 324689.226
Date: 1/12/2025 8:38:52 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
You shouldn't ruin this before it's even started, get it out there and then we'll see how it can or should continue.


I agree.

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324689.228 in reply to 324689.226
Date: 1/12/2025 9:41:35 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
211211
You shouldn't ruin this before it's even started, get it out there and then we'll see how it can or should continue.

Well, I'm not sure if you referred to my messages, but I was just wondering who's trying to ruin something here? :) I feel that my messages have got absolutely nothing to do with an attempt of ruining anything - this is called planning, optimizing and discussion in my opinion. And we still have, what, 8-9 weeks till the beginning of the season? It is plenty of time to get everything organized, especially if we keep on doing necessary things (as we have in the past weeks, more than ever).

So there's no need to make rushed decisions either, as long as we stick with some kind timetable which enables us enough safety net/flexibility. But having said that, I am glad most people seem to be happy to go with proposed things, as it speeds up things. Maybe understandably, as I proposed creation of this league back in September (I have no clue if someone has proposed similar in earlier, original Homegrown teams-thread), I have many visions and opinions (of which some are on the strong side) on what I think this league should/could look like.

And I agree 100%, it is absolutely a good idea to get it started soon, and personally I have no doubt that will happen starting next season. We do have MrJ here too now to help with practical stuff, and that has made this process to speed up quite a bit (like all you have noticed from the forum).

However, I'm not the kind of person myself who just likes to "throw something out and see what it becomes, if it becomes anything at all" (and to state the obvious, I'm not saying you are either, and you didn't say exactly like that, but I used those words to make it more clear what I mean), if you know what I mean, and I think properly planned structure and rules (this kind of planning I've personally done a lot today) gives us the best foundation to start from (and possibly to continue on in the future).

From: Hadár

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324689.229 in reply to 324689.228
Date: 1/12/2025 12:45:27 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
Extraliga
Overall Posts Rated:
428428
Why postpone it until next season? I thought it would be played this season. 14 participants, 13 matches for each on neutral ground and then the placement matches. No need to make anything difficult out of it.

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324689.230 in reply to 324689.228
Date: 1/12/2025 1:31:43 PM
NakamichiDragons
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
23032303
Second Team:
Little Computer People
I didn't want to offend anyone or demean the mission.

Just do it, it could be good.

A few simple rules and that's it, there won't be a perfect schedule that everyone agrees with:
- all games on neutral ground
- all games at a specific time
- all results of the season are neutralized (not counted) if a team deviates from homegrown criterias

What else you should think about:
- who is responsible for the invitation anyway?
- What happens if the game/invitation doesn't take place on time and a team doesn't have enough time to line up?

Have fun and good luck …

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324689.231 in reply to 324689.230
Date: 1/12/2025 9:39:51 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I didn't want to offend anyone or demean the mission.

Just do it, it could be good.

A few simple rules and that's it, there won't be a perfect schedule that everyone agrees with:
- all games on neutral ground
- all games at a specific time
- all results of the season are neutralized (not counted) if a team deviates from homegrown criterias

What else you should think about:
- who is responsible for the invitation anyway?
- What happens if the game/invitation doesn't take place on time and a team doesn't have enough time to line up?

Have fun and good luck …



You are right, Erik.

However, as Wagner noted, he has some strong views/opinions on what the league should look like.

Personally, I think we have enough details to get it up and going.



Last edited by MrJ at 2/20/2025 5:46:15 AM

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From: Deano25

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324689.232 in reply to 324689.221
Date: 1/13/2025 4:39:42 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
Personally, the fairest system is always to do it as randomly as possible - a draw is always more fair than a fixture.

From: MrJ

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324689.233 in reply to 324689.232
Date: 1/13/2025 4:42:52 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Personally, the fairest system is always to do it as randomly as possible - a draw is always more fair than a fixture.


That's my view too

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From: Deano25

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324689.234 in reply to 324689.225
Date: 1/13/2025 4:46:54 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I agree with the idea of one table of all 14 teams and one division.
What would finals look like? A bracket of the top 4 where one plays 4 and 2
Plays 3? Or expand it further?

From: Deano25

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324689.235 in reply to 324689.225
Date: 1/13/2025 4:46:55 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
180180
Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I agree with the idea of one table of all 14 teams and one division.
What would finals look like? A bracket of the top 4 where one plays 4 and 2
Plays 3? Or expand it further?

From: MrJ

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324689.236 in reply to 324689.235
Date: 1/13/2025 4:51:51 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I agree with the idea of one table of all 14 teams and one division.
What would finals look like? A bracket of the top 4 where one plays 4 and 2
Plays 3? Or expand it further?


Wagner has been working on this. Perhaps he'll share here for all to see what he has arrived at 🙂

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From: MrJ
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324689.237 in reply to 324689.236
Date: 1/13/2025 10:22:25 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

UPDATED LIST with current number of players including team salaries.


Wagner College (172501) Manager: Wagner confirmed
-87 Players / $227k+ Salaries (30 players) / 0 players on Transfer Market
Les Gueux du Marais (86508) Manager: Coach Faz Confirmed
-13 Players / $311k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Elan Demars (87312) Manager: demars confirmed
-17 Players / $311k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Holy City Hoopers (23767) Manager: Gccsteel Confirmed
-13 Players / $154k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Buckner Bandits (23579) Manager: T-Lit Confirmed
-16 Players / $114k Salaries / 2 Players on Transfer List
Madrid Chotis (76877) Manager: Jotadoce confirmed
-14 Players / $208k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
WiMaOlca (35977) Manager: WiMaOl Confirmed
-12 Players / $323k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Rajdersi (237760) Manager: Paul George Confirmed
-11 Players / $308k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market (Didn't include non-HG players) $335k predicted salaries S68
Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) Manager: GM-Enzo confirmed
-12 Players / $728k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer List
Swan River Serpents (197075) Manager: MrJ confirmed
-7 Players / $57k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer List (Didn't include non-HG players)
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) Manager: Moneta Confirmed
-9 Players / $138k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Suuret Muinaiset (172657) Manager: cthulhu Confirmed
-12 Players / $362k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market
Heywood Big Dogs (196315)Manager: Deano25 Confirmed
-16 Players / $557k Salaries / 3 Players on Transfer Market
Svätý Jur Snakers (172088) Manager: Hadar Confirmed
-13 Players / $636k Salaries / 0 Players on Transfer Market


We now have all 14 teams locked and ready...

Last edited by MrJ at 1/25/2025 3:28:25 AM

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