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Tanking is long-term process when manager intentionally plays at lower level than his bank account says he should.
I am ok with tax over specific number fex 3 top players (now about 15-20M).
But i really think FAN SURVEY should be redesigned. I d redesign fan survey value of "last season result" which could determined on comparing money ranking (last season money accumulated by team) vs cup and league ranking based on teams results. And d switch impact of "last game result" with "last season". Both could affect tanking.

I have no inside knowledge, but I promise you, that there will be no tax for teams with ~10 million in savings. 10 mil is like nothing these days....

Which is why we're advocating action on tanking rather than bank accounts...

Well, some of that argument comes from guys protecting their bank accounts, too.

I think a good preventative measure to punish outright blanket tanking would be to raise the salary floor at all levels. Then impose a dollar for dollar tax for every dollar payroll is under the floor on a weekly basis. If you are 30k under the floor, 30k comes off the books each week at the financial update.

I understand there is no benefit to being under the tax floor. There is however benefit to selling off the whole roster and being 200k under the floor. Then you have a much larger pile of cash when you are ready to spend.

By first raising the floor, then implementing the tax, you force tanking teams to decide whether to keep salary on the roster to avoid tax or or take a hit. Leaves them with less of a bank vault. If it was dollar for dollar tax, no team is going to go 200K below the floor and collect every dollar they can by selling off their entire roster.

The selling off of an entire roster is done for two reasons. One, build a massive stock pile of cash, and two, get rid of talent while their value is at peak while you are planning to not be competitive. It makes no sense to keep a 30 year old player in his prime if you are just going to tank for a few seasons. Sell him off for max cash while you crash.

I get the newish team argument. That would have to be addressed somehow, but the above kills a lot of the value in complete tanking.

Yes an extra 40k, hence the dollar for dollar tax.

Just match it. But keep in mind you would have resources tied up in players and not just disposable cash sitting in your bank waiting for you to make your big move.

That's a good point. Without a roster size limit, it wouldn't work.

If the BBs want to further discourage tanking, increasing the salary floor is the best and most fool-proof approach. Salary floor is already calculated differently for each league so if they don't want to hurt newer teams they can just increase the salary floor for higher divisions.

As you acknowledge, if your goal is to make money, you don't benefit from being under the salary floor, so in essence a salary floor sets the baseline level of competition. I think a concern Lemonshine has is he thinks the profit difference between playing at the salary floor and tanking is insignificant. In my experience this is untrue. In Div 1, I made about 100k more per week when I had a roster just above the salary floor and made the playoffs(13-9 record) as opposed to when I went 0-22 and tanked. Another thing to consider is that the team who plays at the salary floor will probably be able to remain in the league and continue to be able to make the same amount of money, while the tanking team demotes into a lower league where they will make less money, so in the long run the salary floor team far outstrips the tanker in terms of profits.

A big reason why I am against the other proposed anti-tanking measures, such as changing the fan survey or lowering gate receipts, is that they seem to punish poor performance as opposed to tanking. Lets remember that even if every team is trying to win, someone will always finish in last place. Under those proposed anti-tanking rules teams that finish lower may suffer even if they're trying to win. This could just make it harder for lower ranked teams to catch the ones above them.

With 2,6 million you'll never qualify for a HOARDING tax...

Some people don't understand... Smh