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Do you have a problem with this kind of behaviour because in the end both this kind of team and the tanking team will eventually achieve success by virtue of having more money than their competition.

No I have a problem with managers hoarding money not because of "management skills", but because of gimmicks that only work in this game. Daytrading is more realistic than making huge amounts of extra profits from tanking.

If you can avoid relegation or win some games with a payroll far below the salary floor clearly you shouldn't be taxed. Tanking teams are those who usually only win against bots or other tanking teams. If a manager is below the salary floor in D1 there is a very high likelihood that that manager is effectively tanking and will only be able to compete against other tanking teams

Interesting idea here.... If you lose x many games in a row by a points and more than b PD against you. You automatically relegate to an avilable spot in the league below you. Period.

Then of course, you have to do something in the reverse for people to automatically promote provided there is a spot available due to someone relegating automatically from tanking

Tanking teams always make the most money even with a 0-22 record, because revenues from gate receipts won't go below a certain level. I thought this was a well established fact. You've also seen people here above saying they accumulated well in excess of $10 millions in just a few seasons.

Well as long as there are no numbers crunched, I won't take anything for a fact.

The only guy who said he was above $20 million has like $23 million surplus from daytrading and the other rich teams I know have won multiple titles or have been contenders in uber weak DIV I.

I have no inside knowledge, but I promise you, that there will be no tax for teams with ~10 million in savings. 10 mil is like nothing these days....

I have no inside knowledge, but I promise you, that there will be no tax for teams with ~10 million in savings. 10 mil is like nothing these days....

Which is why we're advocating action on tanking rather than bank accounts...

Tanking is long-term process when manager intentionally plays at lower level than his bank account says he should.
I am ok with tax over specific number fex 3 top players (now about 15-20M).
But i really think FAN SURVEY should be redesigned. I d redesign fan survey value of "last season result" which could determined on comparing money ranking (last season money accumulated by team) vs cup and league ranking based on teams results. And d switch impact of "last game result" with "last season". Both could affect tanking.

I have no inside knowledge, but I promise you, that there will be no tax for teams with ~10 million in savings. 10 mil is like nothing these days....

Which is why we're advocating action on tanking rather than bank accounts...

Well, some of that argument comes from guys protecting their bank accounts, too.

I think a good preventative measure to punish outright blanket tanking would be to raise the salary floor at all levels. Then impose a dollar for dollar tax for every dollar payroll is under the floor on a weekly basis. If you are 30k under the floor, 30k comes off the books each week at the financial update.

I understand there is no benefit to being under the tax floor. There is however benefit to selling off the whole roster and being 200k under the floor. Then you have a much larger pile of cash when you are ready to spend.

By first raising the floor, then implementing the tax, you force tanking teams to decide whether to keep salary on the roster to avoid tax or or take a hit. Leaves them with less of a bank vault. If it was dollar for dollar tax, no team is going to go 200K below the floor and collect every dollar they can by selling off their entire roster.

The selling off of an entire roster is done for two reasons. One, build a massive stock pile of cash, and two, get rid of talent while their value is at peak while you are planning to not be competitive. It makes no sense to keep a 30 year old player in his prime if you are just going to tank for a few seasons. Sell him off for max cash while you crash.

I get the newish team argument. That would have to be addressed somehow, but the above kills a lot of the value in complete tanking.

Yes an extra 40k, hence the dollar for dollar tax.

Just match it. But keep in mind you would have resources tied up in players and not just disposable cash sitting in your bank waiting for you to make your big move.