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Some good points man...Great Idea. Thats what i am building toward is a low post pound the shit out of my oppenent. I hope to be in D-4 next season as we have a team that toatlly loaded up so Nobody is getting by him our div. But for sure with you man. I want to be more defensive oriented. I do have 3 bigs similar to what you have, scoring, defense and rebounding, I have a bad-ass small forward that can play SG as well and he happens to be one of my trainees.

Yep..I was just setting my tactics for tonights game and my opponent plays a 2-3 constantly. So, I'll prob use Patient or motion tonight as he is a pretty good team defensively.

Just a heads up, while its easier to make a team a low post/inside team and is clearly a solid tactic, you also need to have the ability to run a different tactic when needed (Run'n'Gun/Patient/Motion) as better teams can spot an inside only team a mile away, and change there defense to force your SG/PG/SF to take more outside shots. Being predictable will cause your team to hit a wall somewhere around div3. I would say I am 60-70% inside tactics, and the other 30% comes from Patient, motion, or at the very least inside ISO.

Keep your options open

I don't really agree with this. I think in BB the key to success is rather than being okay at several things, be awesome at something.

I was very fortunate when I joined BB and immediately the #1 team in the country became my mentor...shortly thereafter I developed some connections with several other top level players in the game, and quickly understood all the nuances of enthusiasm and game shape managemnt. Those two things alone gives you a free ticket out of D5....I ended up in the toughest DIV league in game, and it took me several seasons to get out...but also forced me become a D3 team while still in DIV and I had no choice but build a solid team.

My origonal team had two players that immediately became my favorite players...unfortunately as 6th man, and starter potential, they capped nearly overnight. I heard about shorter players training faster, so I bought Gunay Onkol for $5K. Since then I have raised my standard on potential and wish he had more than Allstar potential, but he's been my starting SG since he capped...while his stats are not overly impressive, he does his job and fits my team well. I capped out a second player, James Shoemaker, and he has moved to SF. I am currently training Danila, Zvonc, and Bisi. Danila is absolutely sick!! My favorite all time player, and getting better by the week.

I have completed 8 seasons in BB, and have been then to the finals 6 times, winning and promoting 4 of them. I built a sick team when i promoted to D2, but it took 8 games into the season to get their GS up and having the team clicking in all ways...unfortunately I dug too deep a hole starting off 1-7....I had to play on the road in game 1...Without HCA, and playing PON vs POCT we gave up a layup at the buzzer and lost...most heartbreaking loss of my career. As much as I loved that team, it wasn't deep, and too foul prone...so I opted to focus on trainees, sell of the bigs, and drop down to 3 again for a running start.

I went 22-0 in my return to D3, and am now back in D2, and ready for a fun playoff run! Nobody has wondered what I will do since season 14 in terms of tactics. I play LI every game...I know it, my opponent knows it. I don't worry about it. I don't care if opposing teams play me m2m, or 2-3 zone...I believe my LI will be strong enough to prevail. I have a team built on defense, passing, and a team concept where everyone on the court is working towards the same goal.

I see too many teams in BB trying so hard to have a balanced attack, and I think in this particular game, in some ways those things work against you. I guess in a nutshell, you have to consider the tactics you are playing, and the ratings necessary to be successful at those tacticts, and also which ratings actually work against that tactic. So these "balanced" teams sometimes have players that actually work against the desired goal. So my philosophy is to have 5 guys on the court at all times, working towards the same thing, working together to make the collective 5 much better than they are as individual players.

I would encourage the newer players to find a mentor. Also, there are great Federations to join that have some top notch owners that are more than willing to talk BB, and help guide you in efforts to be powerful force in this game!

learn from Chekreyes, and have built a passing/scoring team, I can do an tactic, and they score. for this final game though I'm testing the tactic "princeton" wonder how this will do............anyways, 4 of my 5 starters have 12+ JS/or IS, my center with 10, my backups have okay stats, expecially my 6th man, who plays like a starter.has 11 on his stat. everyone on my team has good-great passing (5+ for everyone which is good by D5 standards. average 30+ assists a gm.) my defense is okay.........actually stunned that it's the best in the league...........my team should put up some ok ratings in D4 and clinch a 5th seed in a D4 league (most of them) or playoff spot (in very low lvl D4) well GL and hope you make it to NBBA. your a good gm............

I see too many teams in BB trying so hard to have a balanced attack, and I think in this particular game, in some ways those things work against you. I guess in a nutshell, you have to consider the tactics you are playing, and the ratings necessary to be successful at those tacticts, and also which ratings actually work against that tactic. So these "balanced" teams sometimes have players that actually work against the desired goal. So my philosophy is to have 5 guys on the court at all times, working towards the same thing, working together to make the collective 5 much better than they are as individual players.

I think a different way of looking at it is that an inside attack or outside attack of a given level will, as you progress up the ranks, eventually end up being insufficient to break through the defense you'll face at that level. Of course, as you progress you can improve as well, but putting that aside for a moment, because balanced attacks are necessarily less strong than a single focused attack, you reach that point sooner as a balanced club.

I do think what is valuable is more the ability to at least vary your plan of attack somewhat when you're facing a team that is just better than yours. Obviously, if you have the roster to tell your opponents every match that you'll TIE, run an LI/M2M and there's not a thing they can do to stop you, there's no point in doing anything else. But when you reach a point where you're facing a team that can run a better LI/M2M, being able to maybe run a patient with an outside shooter at PF or C and some defensive switches can be useful. (Or, of course a Princeton, but the things that a team focusing on LI would look for are not usually conducive to running an effective Princeton in most cases).

I learned some time ago that the ratings are nice to look at but don't really mean a whole lot. A perfect example of that is a recent game I had (46058637). My prolific OD looks like it would do a decent job against a proficient outside attack, but because of an early injury I had a center playing the SF spot defensively most of the game, rather than a guard. And using the advanced stats at the offsite, I can see that said center gave up 6/9 from three point range on contested shots, which killed me. But it's just an illustration that the ratings are nice, but the individual matchups matter more, and that some things (like passing on big men) that don't show up in the ratings at all have an effect.

But back to the larger point, I think the advice to find a mentor is good. I think more than anything, it's important to have an idea of what you want your team to do, how you expect to succeed in the long run, and how you plan to build your team to get there.

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 8/2/2012 9:52:28 AM

I really dont fully understand what you were trying to say......but for every 1 of my losses you can try to use against me, I can can point to 10 wins to make my point......I lost on the road to Ambitious with 100k less payroll and he had a massive enthusiasm advantage because he was still in the cup having TIEd every game. No shame in losing to a great team like that under those conditions.

Last edited by Jason at 8/2/2012 11:52:27 AM

nono, that is not my point, my point was your outside scoring in that match showed that you don't really have much going in that regard, so a well balanced team (at your level) could use a defense for inside play and know that you pretty much still have to look inside as your outside game is lacking in comparison. If it was a bit stronger then a team would at least have to always respect your outside game.

That said all my experience is div3 and lower so I may be full of it (or at least have no idea how div2 is played, my tactics still seem to work at div3 level). Classic BB div3 telling div2 how to win, now where are the Walker Wiggles I have some tips on how to win the cup for him........

I hear you, but actually that dynamic is true for all my games.....We have beat and competed with high level teams......this telly leads to a more of a philosophical discussion on how ratings amd tactics work.......that was really more my point in my original post. Not so much about tooting my own horn, but more so that in BB balances attacks don't always work, and a well constructed "predictable" attack, can be veryes successful; even at the highest levels.

I have said it before, but that is the great thing about this game.....there are multiple ways to be successful, not just a cookie cutter approach to success.