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Season 2 for me ! what else B)

Thank you WiMaOl, Gccsteel, LennuK. and Spela for confirming your intentions/wishes, based on that I just updated the post concerning Season 2 HGL team lineup, which can be found going back few pages worth of posts, or directly from here: (326589.154).
I guess I have to update league table tomorrow instead of today (well, technically today) as it's better to do it when not tired. Speaking of which, I do everything I can to take care all numbers are as they're supposed to be in league tables, but if you ever notice/spot any problem/fault with it, please don't hesitate to contact me by BBMail or here on this thread (or on Scores Thread)!

i'm in for season 2!

i am out for season 2. this was fun but i just want a chill game. i may also buy some players the next few seasons after my arena is finished.

i am out for season 2. this was fun but i just want a chill game. i may also buy some players the next few seasons after my arena is finished.

Thank you for sharing your decisions, BigChill and Chucarro!

Right now situation looks like this for Season 2:
10 current teams in, 2 current teams out, 4 out of us 16 haven't voiced their opinion yet, and at least 2 new interested
managers ready to join for Season 2!

For all teams not continuing in HGL on Season 2:
I hope you will all stick with 100% homegrown policy of not purchasing HGL ineligible players for the whole duration of this Buzzerbeater season, even if you wouldn't be playing in HGL Playoffs or would have lost in playoffs and it would've ended your HGL season games.
While it wouldn't technically in practice affect your scores (getting ejected/disqualified from HGL by violating non-HG players-rule affects only current and future scores) or affect your next season in HGL (as all you're going to step out of HGL at very least for the duration of whole next season), I'd certainly prefer to keep 'HGL disqualification records'-section empty.

Fresh league tables (after Round 9 of play) available again on familiar places, in the first page of both Official HGL Threads!

If someone is still unsure/don't remember how official league positions are determined for teams with equal number of wins, I remind that the winner of their Regular Season match will be ahead in the league table for the rest of the Regular Season if teams end up with same number of wins after Round 15. So scoring difference makes no difference in this comparison, as there can be only one winner in the match between these two teams (because there's only one regular season meeting against each opponent).

As an example, we had a match LMS-BUC on Round 9, and as LMS won, both teams have now record of 2 wins and 9 losses. So if LSM and BUC end up with similar Regular Season record, LMS will always be ranked higher than BUC on Official Regular Season Rankings ('ORSR'), no matter what is these teams' scoring difference at the end of the season.

And as a further example, as BUC and TRO are now tied in wins, if these teams keep on winning at least almost as many games on Rounds 10-13, a Round 14 match between TRO and BUC will be likely very important in determining their relative position in the league table. (These examples of course assume, that no forfeit losses will be given to each of these teams, but I'd be very surprised if that would happen).

I realize most if not all of you already know and remember this classification system, but I just wanted to remind that kind of system exists instead of the "typical" one which relies solely on wins, and after that uses scoring difference as a method of secondary comparison when organizing teams to correct order on a league table.

Hey Wagner and everybody else. I expressed a rough future interest for the HGL some months ago and I think next season my first team would be at the point, where I could be able to fully go HG. Therefore, should you have a spot open, I would love to put myself on the waiting list and potentially join the HG league for the coming season. Though, I guess we will see how many current participants will continue in the second HGL season and I would totally vouch for all of them to be preferred, while filling the league for the new season.

Thanks very much for your message and interest, LennuK.! As you might have noticed, 2 current HGL managers have withdrawn from Season 2 of HGL, and 4 of us haven't stated their intention in terms of Season 2 as of yet.
However, even if all those 4 current managers would continue, and yourself and Spela (Hårdboll) would join HGL for Season 2, we would still be at 16 teams which would actually be quite ideal number of teams from many points of view.

While I naturally couldn't know how many new to HGL homegrown teams could possibly announce their interest of joining HGL Season 2 in future weeks, and while qualification criteria/method haven't been decided/locked in place (should there be lots more applicants than there are open places for Season 2), intuitive thought would be that it'd feel natural choice to accept you both for Season 2 to replace withdrawn teams.
What do other HGL managers think of this?

Right now I still have 3 non-HG players on my roster. But as my season is not going quite well in the Estonian second division, I am most probably looking at a relegation at the end of the season and then I would get rid of these three remaining players. Until then I would hold onto them, as I am already below the salary cap and so I can distribute the playing minutes and train my draftees more effectively. Just let me know if this would be feasible for you. My current top-8 salary without the non-HGs right now is at 190k and it's bound to be a little higher for the coming season :-B

And again, many thanks to you (and the others) for creating this initiative and putting so much time and effort into coordinating it.

What do you think about your plans for next season in terms of getting rid of those HGL ineligible players, are you going to do it anyway, or only if you're not able to avoid relegation from Estonian second division?
And I can't recall if I already asked this some months before, but have you already familiarized yourself with the content on both Official HGL Threads (main thread and scores thread, practically first 10-11 posts on both threads include almost all necessary/essential information and links) so that you've got the idea how league runs and what's demanded from participating managers? And by two threads neither of what I mean naturally isn't Homegrown Teams II-thread.. :)

Your team would actually have rather optimal salary for our league, as middle group is very even in salaries (and current Regular Season success, as league table shows) and few wins in tight games against your biggest/closest rivalries can change your Regular Season success quite dramatically. Especially if it's going to be little higher next season, I think you're going to have a shot at win against some teams in HGL even with a bit bigger top8 salary...

Thanks very much, I really hope people enjoy HGL as much as I do, and I hope it helps getting homegrown community even stronger and lively in the long run, and that it would become for some a one more good reason for becoming a homegrown team... :)

Yes, some good northern rivalries upcoming. :D I'm not aware of any other HG teams from Estonia, neither have I encountered one in the leagues of the cup. But maybe there's another one out there...
Yes really looking forward to becoming HG and perhaps having a few good draftees at the end of the season.

Absolutely, I'm also really looking forward to them!

I see... Do you have active forums in Estonia by the way? At least you have almost double the amount of active teams as we have here in Finland (168 vs. 305), so who knows, maybe there could be some team we're just not aware of... Just like in Finland. I know only 3 homegrown teams from Finland, but I suspect there could be some more, at least new teams who haven't still purchased anyone, ever.

I'm glad to hear you're looking forward to it, and same goes with me - to explain what I mean a bit further, I'd actually skip playing my regular BB league altogether if that would be possible, and focus solely on HGL. :D To put it short, and to refer to your message (in terms of draftees), frankly only good/rewarding thing I get from playing regular BB league nowadays are draftees (which haven't been too much to brag about in the recent years).
Anyway, even though my team is likely on a (steep?) declining path on coming seasons (due to aging), I'm still very much looking forward to future seasons in HGL!

I won't return for season 2. Appreciate all the efforts. Just has become an afterthought for me and the scheduling and communication is too much. If we transition to a PL then I'd be interested. Or just a ladder competition. Maybe later on down the road once my team is more built then I'd be interested in competing for a trophy. But I think losing by 20 most games also reduces my interest levels.

Thank you for your participation anyway, and especially for your willingness to do the necessary/required things to keep things running properly for your team and for the whole league, even if you at the end found them too much to handle in the long run. Naturally decisions haven't been made on which basis teams will be selected to HGL in the future (or how many open positions there will be for each season), but as an initial thought, you're of course welcome to return later on.

I know and totally understand it's not ideal to lose by a lot, and everyone would hope mostly for close games (or wins) for their team to keep it as exciting as possible, but I guess it's sometimes beneficial if one finds also another ways that keep it interesting for them despite the score. While there's no point of trying to compare managers, which I won't do here (nor do I say how one "should" do things/think about them), I could use MrJ as a positive example: scores wise it's been a very hard season for him, but he still wants to stick with the HGL and with the project, and I admire that sort of commitment. Your decision is of course also totally understandable, and I respect that, and thank you for appreciating the efforts made for HGL.

But again, you're welcome back later if you want to "compete for a trophy, when your team is more built" as you mentioned!

i am out for season 2. this was fun but i just want a chill game.

I should've known this, the clue is kind of in your name ;)
But in a more serious note, thank you for participating to Season 1 - your team name is forever carved into the HGL history... :)

I know only 3 homegrown teams from Finland, but I suspect there could be some more, at least new teams who haven't still purchased anyone, ever.

To quote myself above, and to continue question about possible new "naturally homegrown teams" (teams that have never purchased anyone, as they have just started in BB a while ago) I was wondering if someone knows if there's any easy way to find out newest registered teams for each country?

Hey Wagner, my plan is to get rid of the 3 non-HG players on the roster independent of the outcome of the regular season. So, I am basically guaranteeing that I will be fully HG with my roster for the next season. Although, ideally, I hope to survive the second division from a low league rank this season and the next one I would then tank, as I would still need this one extra season to get some of my players trained to a higher level before getting my hands on some real jewels (hopefully) from the draft. But we will see how this works out

I followed the HG-threads at the beginning of your current HGL season, so I theoretically am familiar with these. Though at some point before the next season begins, I would go through them again just to refresh it. I truly believe that playing with a HG team is a fun challenge, especially if you still try to stay competitive to some degree and maybe even have some U21 or even NT players in the roster at some point.