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From: Plotts

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36144.14 in reply to 36144.13
Date: 6/19/2008 8:26:21 PM
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Not one person said anything about game shape. It's quite ridiculous you stated what you thought we were thinking and not focusing on what we wrote.

I like the system now and I asked if minute management had been brought up, or are there ways we think it can be improved? That and that alone is the intention of this thread.


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36144.15 in reply to 36144.14
Date: 6/19/2008 9:31:59 PM
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In my scrimmage today, I played strictly follow depth chart. I had two players that needed a serious amount of minutes (one needed 46). I filled those two players in as the starter, sub and reserve for their respective positions.

So what happens? With 7 minutes left the coach subs all my starters out because I'm killing the other team. The coach took players off the bench that I didn't even put on the depth chart.

How does this make sense? The two players (my centre and PF) were not in foul trouble and were not injured.

The last two weeks I could not get all 5 players their full training because of the silly blow out rules.

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36144.17 in reply to 36144.16
Date: 6/19/2008 9:49:01 PM
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I think I'm just only going to schedule scrimmages against teams that are much better than me. That seems to be the only solution. ;-)

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36144.18 in reply to 36144.11
Date: 6/20/2008 12:39:55 AM
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that this is also applicable to non-competitive matches, which doesn't make any sense.


yes, the way to 'manage' time in a non-competitive matches is to set you game with only 5 players in the lineup. all are assured of getting 48 minutes, unless they foul out.

yes, this scenario is VERY realistic....guess the BB want us to manage our time this way. HA

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36144.19 in reply to 36144.18
Date: 6/20/2008 3:21:31 AM
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that this is also applicable to non-competitive matches, which doesn't make any sense.


yes, the way to 'manage' time in a non-competitive matches is to set you game with only 5 players in the lineup. all are assured of getting 48 minutes, unless they foul out.

yes, this scenario is VERY realistic....guess the BB want us to manage our time this way. HA

let me destroy this nice thoughtbaloon: if you put 5 players on the roster for a game, even if they do not get fouled out, or injured, they get tired, and then the coach brings in a lucky fan, and you loose trainingminutes, so your guys do not get 48 minutes....

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36144.20 in reply to 36144.19
Date: 6/20/2008 3:52:47 AM
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Yup. What he should hav said was "set your game with only 5 players in the lineup and have them all have at least inept stamina".

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36144.22 in reply to 36144.9
Date: 6/20/2008 10:06:03 AM
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[Potential has nothing to do with current ability or how the player performs. In BB, it is only relevant to training.

Perhaps I'm not making myself clear, because in other posts it seems you agree with me in point, but got caught up with the BB term 'role player'. I use that term because it has a real meaning and I hope BB would use it in the same vein.

The idea of a role player is nothing new in basketball or any other sport which permits substitutions when confronted with specific situations: tough defense, an outside threat, rebounding, while knowing full well that they will be losing out in (many) other areas due to the one dimensional nature of the player. This is a 'role player' as opposed to a starter. I reference the that since BB uses the term they must understand the nature. A bench is either considered to be deep, which means it have many talented players who could either be starting on other teams or at least 'good enough' to fill all the needs of a position, OR a team's bench may have role players. Those who come in for the above reasons to a specific job -- including burn minutes are role players. LIKE in BB's training we don't expect role players toe ver be (consistent) starters, but they can fill the need at the time reasonably well.

NO COACH would play these types of players for an extended time (barring injuries) if the coach wanted to keep his job. The idea that a poor bench needlessly plays so much is poorly conceived, and that is what I mean. BB's intent for training becomes secondary to the notion of a coach breaking fundamental ideas of who-to-play-and-when for the sake of... I'm not sure what.



Last edited by Coros at 6/20/2008 10:09:22 AM

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36144.24 in reply to 36144.19
Date: 6/20/2008 1:11:38 PM
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let me destroy this nice thoughtbaloon: if you put 5 players on the roster for a game, even if they do not get fouled out, or injured, they get tired, and then the coach brings in a lucky fan, and you loose trainingminutes


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I guess there were no fans in the stands to sub his tired players???
(also, I have played many Scrimmages with 6 players and I KNOW that there stamina was average)
or your hypothesis does not apply??
even if you hypothesis is correct, given that we have little control over minute distribution, would it not be crappy if they were to take this one thing we CAN control away from us!!!


Last edited by dennis54 at 6/20/2008 1:13:25 PM

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