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32989.14 in reply to 32989.13
Date: 5/25/2008 5:50:23 AM
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at that time the ratings were still reflecting the team attitude.
It was a bug that was only fixed at the beginning of this season.

but it does not matter anymore :)

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32989.16 in reply to 32989.10
Date: 5/25/2008 10:58:10 AM
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Here is a list of good surprises for me:
- being able to give almost full training to 6 players (on two positions).
- my top players playing a hell of a game (like today Zanoncini against a $44k salary player)
- pops in secondary skills
- good team rating (3 respectables today playing on the road)
- guessing the right tactics in tight games
- being lucky with an easy game in the national tournament
- no injuries before an important game


I don't consider any of those surprises. All of those are the results of careful planning. As to 'no injuries' the lack of bad luck is not good luck, it is neutral.

I don't ever 'guess' at tactics. I choose them carefully based on my team's strengths and my assessment of my opponent. I know about what my ratings should be, too. If I'm wrong about either of those, it isn't bad luck, I simply wasn't good enough.

I wonder why you are still playing.


I keep winning.

what you say is truth and what I say is obvious


Something obvious is necessarily true; what is your point?

What you don't get about my discussion is that I don't consider the result of a careful plan to be 'good luck.' It is what I am expecting to have happen.

Here's an example of what would be a tiny bit of serendipity:

Last night I had my third consecutive sellout, with an expansion in the works, that's all I could expect. Why could the game have generated, say a Standing Room Only walk-in crowd of 200 that paid $5 per head. That would have generated a mere $1k in extra revenue, but would have been a pleasant surprise.

Things like that would greatly enhance this game.

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32989.17 in reply to 32989.16
Date: 5/25/2008 11:22:25 AM
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See something good suprised me a few games ago. I didn't think I had a chance to beat a team so I TiE to just the benefit of enthusiasm for the next few games, but I won anyway! And it was by 1 with him missing a 3 at the buzzer. Awesome suprise :-)

Also getting bots 3 rounds now is suprising and good for my cup and pocketbook.

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32989.18 in reply to 32989.16
Date: 5/25/2008 11:34:20 AM
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Your glass seems always to be half empty.

Even if the standing room idea appeared suddenly, it was announced in the news and it should be treated by you as a game feature, which wouldn't even count as a pleasant surprise.

Tactics: even there are possible lucky situations.
Let's say you carefully scouted the opponent, he always plays 3-2 zone. You anticipate, but he plays a totally different strategy instead this game. He gets better ratings but you still win with a close game. Luck?

Cheer up, you can even make the game more fun by yourself, by playing more risky tactics, train different ways etc...

Climbing the BB-mountain. Destination: the top.
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32989.19 in reply to 32989.16
Date: 5/25/2008 12:57:49 PM
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what about selling a player at a higher price than his market value...

... no, wait. Cause you probably expect a newbie to buy him at 3 times his value and when you sell him at only two times as much it is a disappointment.

I can't win with you, I give up :)

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32989.20 in reply to 32989.16
Date: 5/26/2008 1:48:48 AM
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"Something obvious is necessarily true;"

Ask Aristotle or Ptolemy about this. They "knew" the sun revolved around the earth because they saw it happen every day. It was obvious. Now, are you going to argue that you are a smarter or wiser man than Aristotle and say it isn't obvious that the sun revolves around the earth?

Copernicus decided that even though it was obvious it wasn't true.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 5/26/2008 8:25:41 AM

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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32989.21 in reply to 32989.7
Date: 5/26/2008 7:17:45 AM
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well, I am not going to try to pull you back in again this time.

At least you have given it some more time now, and if you still don't enjoy this game any better in the meantime it might indeed be best to spend your time on other, more enjoyable games you like.

Thanks for giving it a shot, and enjoy!

They are not your friends; they dispise you. I am the only one you can count on. Trust me.
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32989.22 in reply to 32989.16
Date: 5/26/2008 12:15:56 PM
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Maybe this is an example of what you are looking for: (5984724).

Playing with 5 players and one getting injured soon.
They chose an lucky fan and it resulted the third best scored of the match (second best of his team)!

Another example is the draft. If you are lucky, you can get a really good player even if you did not spend anything on it.

Anyway, in my opinion, BB is mostly a strategy game, and having "good luck" will always be a result of not controlling all the parameters of the game (so you will feel that you were lucky). Any other solution will make me feel I´m playing Monopoly and landing on a Chance or Community Chest.

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
From: Bevzil

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32989.23 in reply to 32989.19
Date: 5/26/2008 2:28:07 PM
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Well, after looking that PO game, I see that you were destroyed by your own player, who you bought from me, Srđan Pecelj... He had a 1-13 FGs :)

It is always nice to see your ex-players doing fine in another club :)

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32989.24 in reply to 32989.18
Date: 5/29/2008 5:48:11 PM
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Even if the standing room idea appeared suddenly, it was announced in the news and it should be treated by you as a game feature, which wouldn't even count as a pleasant surprise.


Since it wouldn't always happen, and there would be no way to plan for it, it would indeed be a pleasant surprise.

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