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From: MrJ

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324689.119 in reply to 324689.118
Date: 12/31/2024 10:29:34 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Hi Wagner.

Thank you for your lengthy replies; there is some valuable info in there. +1

Firstly, and importantly (I should have stated initially so you didn't write this much - sorry), I am an experienced manager who has been playing BB since Season 14 (with two short breaks). My team has been known by a handful of names and have played in every division. :-) My current team name, Swan River Serpents, will be the last.

I have a lot of experience training and have trained many U21 NT players from different countries. I also spend a considerable amount of time on BB (I log in EVERY day). So, my experience in all elements of the game is considerable ...and my commitment significant. This is why my question was centered on training, specifically training from the perspective of a whole team...something I have never done. I am used to training one and two-position and focusing on two to three players. When I say 'whole team', I mean that my training needs to consider the 'whole team' and not just 2-3 gun players. So, knowing that I know how to train, and utilise the elastic effect and all the other little nuances of training in general, my question was geared at trying to learn how to effectively train using a team-approach in order to maximise the skills of my whole team.

In the past few days, I have had a few teams bbmail me about this very question and I have a much better idea now of how I might go about this type of training.

I have also gained some key knowledge on other things to consider like keeping an eye on sold players (who were gifted in original team or drafted) and buy back when the opportunity presents itself. I did that very thing this year. I have also bookmarked 2 other players with this in mind going forward. It is these little nuggets of knowledge gained now, that will help me setup for a strong start next season with only 9 players on the roster.

So, yeah, I will continue to prepare for next season.

I have already added this season's draftees into my training for this season to maximise their skills.

I am tanking this season and employing maximum draft investment...to get the best start to my HG future. Next season's draftees, if I can draft well, will set the foundation going forward.

And yes, my arena is a big focus obviously. As someone who has previously had 22000 seats, I know what is required and its importance.

Finally, while thinking through this whole HG plan, it occurred to me that I'm going to save far more money than I would have with a non-HG team. This will allow me to invest quickly into the additional training infrastructure, as well as top-shelf staff. Not to mention invest maximum draft points every season.

So, thank you for all your points above. And while most of it is not relevant to me as an experienced manager, I will still review comments you have made around the training of a HG team.

Kind regards.

MrJ


Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Monēta

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324689.120 in reply to 324689.1
Date: 1/1/2025 10:55:26 AM
Lielupes Melnās Sirdis
II.2
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255255
Second Team:
BK Zaļie Knaģi
Hello !
From this season my team is homegrown team My players look the same - they are cloned interesting - am i the only such team inBB. Happy New Year
Is there a place for me on your list?

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Date: 1/1/2025 11:56:51 AM
NakamichiDragons
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Second Team:
Little Computer People
Hello !
From this season my team is homegrown team My players look the same - they are cloned interesting - am i the only such team inBB. Happy New Year
Is there a place for me on your list?


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From: MrJ

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Date: 1/2/2025 2:34:42 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Hello !
From this season my team is homegrown team My players look the same - they are cloned interesting - am i the only such team inBB. Happy New Year
Is there a place for me on your list?



Love it!

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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Date: 1/2/2025 8:11:58 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Congratulations, GM-Enzo!

It is great to see the kind of success that a HG team can have.

I'm looking forward to starting the journey.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.127 in reply to 324689.126
Date: 1/7/2025 2:43:19 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
342342
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

This is a question for Wagner...

...how fairs things with creating a league for HG teams? I have read through the thread and there has been some great discussions. Are we any closer to either 1) creating a league that we control; or 2) having a league that BB has set up for us?

I'm hoping a HG League will eventuate...

...maybe in time for my HG arrival in Season 68

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 1/7/2025 7:29:47 AM
Wagner College
II.2
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211211
Thanks for your messages!

To the first one - I didn't realize you're such an experienced and apparently very knowledgeable manager, so therefore I crowded the forum with mainly basic tips. But maybe, just maybe, someone will get something out of them. Maybe not, but that's life. ;P

As for BBHG league, frankly I'm completely unaware of possible discussion about it that takes place out of Buzzerbeater forums as I don't use Discord. As you can see, what becomes to BBHG league it's been somewhat silent here in the forums lately. If you or anyone else happens to know if discussion about it has taken place in Discord, please let me know.
As it stands right now - and like you already noticed by reading through the thread - there are 8 of us currently interested in participating in the league.

What becomes to amount of interested teams, the current number (8) is already quite nice, and on the other hand I'm somewhat disappointed that there still aren't more of us (as there are actually even some more HG teams in BB than the list at the 1st page of this thread mentions). Having said that, it's more important to have dedicated teams to participate, than having plenty of teams that wouldn't be willing to take the trouble to follow through with their obligations to the BBHG league (for instance, to arrange weekly matches as planned).

Like I mentioned couple of times before, nothing would restrict us to begin the league as soon as we want, as already that amount of teams would be quite decent. Perhaps not optimal (as some tough decisions would need to be made when deciding what kind of league system to use and how many would qualify for playoffs, or then all 8 teams would need to be granted a spot for playoffs, which on the other hand would make regular season a bit less meaningful...like you can see with this one example only, there are so many considerations to be made to make it optimal... having said that, optimal is a relative term and sometimes it's just better to get things rolling anyway instead of waiting for everything to be "optimal").

I have presented few of the possible (of practically tens of possible) league systems here in the forum, but apart from Elan Demars' manager demars, not many remarks/comments have been made about them. So I have no idea if participating teams would for instance prefer the most traditional possible league system, or rather more inventive/interesting one.

As for BB staff/owners interest of taking an administrative role of this BuzzerBeater Homegrown-league, I honestly don't have any clue about that. Like I mentioned/hinted in this forum multiple times (I believe), I wouldn´t mind see BB owners taking control/administrative role here, as it would free of us of lot of manual work (most work would fall to the league commissioner though, so not that big of a task for a regular team that decides to participate!) and would ensure everything goes as planned within the planned envelope time wise. So I don't know if BB owners even read this thread as I haven't had any personal BB-mail from them about it, and as you can see AFAIK they haven't commented anything to this thread either.

So to your question 1): mentally we are closer to establishing the league, as personally I keep entertaining different possibilities (in terms of league systems, awakening more interest towards the league, etc.) and thinking what could be made to make the league as good, interesting and fair to all as ever possible.
Also, a full set of rules for the BBHG are still to be established.
Firstly, if we keep this league "on our hands", I think we need to have some sanctions/penalties if you don't stick with the rules (sanctions could differ from one type of violation to another).
Second, I guess many "typical real life rules" would suit this BBHG league well, however I'd like to see couple of additions. We could for instance consider changing the regular season team rankings determining order slightly, etc..

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/7/2025 7:36:04 AM
Wagner College
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Good choice, as it will be next to impossible to defend effectively against your (and against elpupes') team, as we can never visually identify which one of your players was the best 3 point shooter of the team, or who's the one who´s phenomenal in rebounds, etc... ;)

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