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From: Shadow

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294450.104 in reply to 294450.103
Date: 7/5/2018 3:33:12 PM
In honorem Heinrici II.
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Today I'm drinking wine and I still find my idea fine!

"Nichts fickt dich härter als die Zeit." - Ser Davos Seewert.
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294450.105 in reply to 294450.104
Date: 7/6/2018 6:48:49 AM
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It looks like exceptional nutritionist will stop Stamina from dropping at all. So you will need to buy a level 7 to actually increase stamina.

I would like some feedback from the staff on whether Nutritionist and fitness trainer stack (ie. fitness + exceptional nutritionist increases stamina for example). A nutritionist will be very hard to justify if the effects don't stack.

Example:
Not stacking
Standard drop with no specialty trainer = -0.05 (20 weeks for a stamina drop)
Drop with fitness trainer = -0.02
Drop without fitness trainer but with lvl 6 nutritionist = -0.05*0% = 0
Drop with fitness trainer and lvl 6 nutritionist: = -0.02*0% = 0

If it works like this then a nutritionist will actually limit the effect of a fitness trainer

Stacking
Drop without fitness trainer but with lvl 6 nutritionist = -0.05+0.05 = 0
Drop with fitness trainer and lvl 6 nutritionist: = -0.02+0.05 = 0.03


It looks like a Fitness trainer will be by far the best option unless you get a high level nutritionist (the specialty is probably equivalent to an advanced or competent Nutritionist, but it may not cost you as much.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/6/2018 6:54:49 AM

From: Hadár

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294450.106 in reply to 294450.104
Date: 7/6/2018 6:50:16 AM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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Sports Psychologist - game shape is such a volatile factor. Sometimes, no matter the minutes, some of your most important players just can't hit their best form in the worst of times like the playoffs, etc... This is where this guy comes in handy - he'll make sure they have their heads straight and will help keep their form up at all times, even if the minutes are suboptimal.


If so, why does my best player have form 7?
Last week played 69 minutes.

For comparison:

Prior to training, 6 of my players were in the form of 9, 2 players were in the form of 8, and 3 players were in the form 7. I bought a sports psychologist level 6 and now after the training, it looks like this:
5 players are in the form of 9, 5 players have the form 8 and my key player who played the last week 69 minutes has the form 7. The sport psychologist level 6 did not help.

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294450.108 in reply to 294450.107
Date: 7/6/2018 9:35:25 AM
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Has anyone had a stamina pop from a secondary staff yet? Ive bought a lvl 6 as there was no lvl 7 when i looked at that particular time.

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294450.109 in reply to 294450.107
Date: 7/6/2018 2:10:52 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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Do you have the control experiment where you have exactly the same set up but without the sports psychologist? Perhaps your key player would have been even worse.


He would not be worse without the sports psychologist this week.....

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294450.110 in reply to 294450.108
Date: 7/6/2018 5:07:49 PM
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Players on 9 GS retain exactly the same DMI which means ST remains exactly the same with a lvl 6 nutritionist.

Frankly that is disappointing and I only see people using the youth trainer in the future as the GS coach seems to have a very limited impact and the nutritionist is not economically viable when compared to a fitness coach

Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/6/2018 5:08:17 PM

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294450.112 in reply to 294450.111
Date: 7/7/2018 2:04:40 AM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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I’m not following what the rationale is for your statement.


You do not have to know, the report was for Marin.

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294450.114 in reply to 294450.113
Date: 7/7/2018 1:43:46 PM
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From everything I'm reading here, it's not a bug, it's just that the secondary coaches only have an effect if they are a very high level coach, and it's really only a full season effect, not a short term effect. Or maybe a secondary coach of lesser skill will help a bit if the main coach is very highly rated.

I think if a coach is starting over and has the money, it might be interesting to spend a ton on coaching to see what happens to young players, but I doubt the payoff would be as high as just having good players to begin with. You're talking $100k plus per season for coaches. At D-III or IV, where most of us labor, you can get several pretty good players for that annual cost.

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