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From: malice

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Date: 2/14/2013 1:41:55 AM
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I have an advanced doctor with taped up specialty, interestingly enough no player has ever been "taped up" and brought back into the game.

What level? My experience has been very good with a L6 TI doctor...

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From: malice

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Date: 2/14/2013 4:15:44 AM
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Oh whoops! Can't see the forest for the trees!

I'd guess his experience is somewhat an anomaly... but an anomaly doesn't mean it's bugged.

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From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 2/14/2013 8:22:34 AM
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It may not be the most serious bug but to be shrugged off as just "randomness" is nonsense. How injuries work in this game is flawed, period.


If you're talking about how injuries are strictly caused by fouls, yes, that's ridiculous. It's a design decision, not a bug, but one that I (and many others I'm sure) would like to see addressed.

As far as the specific distribution of your injuries, it's no more a bug than if you happen to roll double ones twice in a row while playing Monopoly (though that would be actually very roughly six times less likely to happen than this). If something that is statistically unlikely to happen to a single person but expected to happen many times over the course of the population happens to a single person, it's not a bug. If you can demonstrate that over a random sample of a significant size that it's happening at a much greater frequency that should be represented in the sample, that could be evidence of a bug.

If something that is supposed to happen to some people happens in the game, it's not a bug when it happens to you. It's not shrugging it off as randomness - it's precisely what randomness is. God knows if you play HT at all you really should know that! It's the same thing - when something improbable happens, that's not a bug - when there's a major and statistically significant incidence of improbable events, that would be evidence of a bug. If you're just interested in complaining about the game, leave it at that - I have no problem with complaints about the injury system being poorly designed - but please be sure that you only use 'bug' when it's appropriate.

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Date: 2/14/2013 9:46:03 AM
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I think all players hit a point where their skills start dropping fast. I've had a 32 year old with a career extension trainer start dropping almost weekly and I've had a 34 year old have only one skill drop over an entire season. That part depends on the player.

I think like everything else, a career extension trainer helps slow down aging but it's not going to be a massive difference. I've read that the difference in speed between each level of trainer is 8% so perhaps a career extension trainer only slows down the aging process by 8%? Or maybe it's only 15-20%. But I would highly doubt that it's much more than that.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 2/14/2013 9:49:00 AM

From: JON

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Date: 2/14/2013 1:55:39 PM
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Good post. I wish it was possible to find the stats on every single injury I've had since I started playing for a more appropriate sample size.

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Date: 2/14/2013 1:56:29 PM
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Wow lv6 , that's a world renowned right? I'm going to consider that after the season I just had.

From: Manouche

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Date: 2/14/2013 2:11:27 PM
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I have an advanced doctor with taped up specialty, interestingly enough no player has ever been "taped up" and brought back into the game.

What level? My experience has been very good with a L6 TI doctor...



What is a very good experience ?
Show 2 occurences when the speciality was used pleased.

I don't have numbers but by experience, I believe that injuries happen more frequently early in the game and during the first minutes.
I don't think it is a bug but some mechanism that makes it more likely.

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Date: 2/14/2013 2:34:09 PM
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I have an advanced doctor with taped up specialty, interestingly enough no player has ever been "taped up" and brought back into the game.

What level? My experience has been very good with a L6 TI doctor...



What is a very good experience ?
Show 2 occurences when the speciality was used pleased.

I don't have numbers but by experience, I believe that injuries happen more frequently early in the game and during the first minutes.
I don't think it is a bug but some mechanism that makes it more likely.


I wouldn't say the specialty is exceptionally useful, but I did have it trigger recently - Chester Hutchins injured early in the second, returned in the third. (I was disappointed he didn't end up fouling out after coming back, since it's not often players leave games injured and come back and foul out).

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235151.104 in reply to 235151.103
Date: 2/14/2013 3:41:54 PM
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I have tested this specialty for many seasons, I was tired of waiting to see its effect. Finally, after several seasons, I saw one player coming back and fired the doctor straight after the game.
I have asked around sometimes about others experience and a player coming back is rare. I suspect malice might be confused about what the specialty is supposed to do.

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