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I assume you are talking about Guanglun? He must be getting pretty close, based on his DMI (DMI is a rough estimator of current salary when game shape is proficient). If you want to get him as many pops as possible, I suggest mixing handling, passing and outside d training. At least that's what my analysis says so far. But like I said, it is very preliminary and most likely hokum.

By the way, you can ask The Mogul about Jean-Francis Saint-Martin (7419597). I am pretty sure he is capped at his current skill set. It can give you an idea what a star guard caps at.

A couple of questions. Did you ever take Neascu or Vyberal to their cap? If so, do you remember where they were when they capped.

Also, for Marcum and Oberortner, are the skills listed there the skills when they capped (to the best of your knowledge). Or did you give them a bit of training after their cap?

Thanks again for all the information.

Marcum and Oberortner were capped at that point. Neacsu managed one more OD improvement, but was likely capped at the time of the Jan 09 post. I was unsure if Vyberal was capped - he reached 15 level js, but was injured a few times right before he stopped receiving training.

Ok, I have this player:

Owner: Spångakillarna

Weekly salary: $ 17 292

DMI: 72200
Age: 24
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: starter
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: proficient
Driving: prominent Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: prominent Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: inept

From my experience his training was slowed, but not too much so he didnt hit the cap (the way you describe it in another thread).

If this is true:

-Jump shot, jump range, inside defense and rebounding all contribute significantly to capping (and at similar levels)
-Passing and inside shot contribute in a very minor way
-All other skills have zero impact on capping.

I could rearange his skills by moving JS and JR to ID and RB without changing the cap

Owner: Spångakillarna

Weekly salary: $ 73 558

DMI: 72200
Age: 24
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: starter
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: atrocious Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: proficient
Driving: prominent Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: marvelous
Rebounding: phenomenal Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: inept

To this I could even add some amount of IS without him caping out?
I might have made some misstake here but to me it looks like you need more data to improve the model.

From my experience his training was slowed, but not too much so he didnt hit the cap (the way you describe it in another thread).

The slower training is likely due to age. When he takes 6 weeks to pop, I would appreciate it if you could contact me with his skills. I could use him in the model.

Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: marvelous
Rebounding: phenomenal Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: average Free Throw: inept

No, in my current model and with only starter potential this guy would have capped a long time before this, just due to the 15/18 ID/RB. Now if you swapped the RB and shot blocking and ID with IS, you might be on to something.

I might have made some misstake here but to me it looks like you need more data to improve the model.

I completely agree with that statement and I think it is pretty much what I said above. Like I said, sharing the info is just for fun at this stage and should not be taken seriously.

Do you have the stats of this dude? (2402564)
Pure insideshot created that salary?

I received a reply from the owner regarding his current skills. If I were a betting man, I would bet that he received a lot of training after capping. In any case, he just bought him and has no idea how he was trained. So he is not really useful for this exercise.

I have not trained him in several seasons and will not start doing so now, so he will never contribute to your database. I just put him there to show that there must be a flaw in the quoted statement.

I had him pop in JS when he was 20 then I gave him 2 trainings JS, 6 IS and 3 1on1, the pop before took 1 JS, 1 JR and 3 1on1 I thought that was a steep increase but it might be the year difference. He also had 6 trainings in RB without a pop, but 3 of them was not ful minutes (the pop before was 3 trainings for one pop). So the data is not good but to me it looks like its somewhat slowed.

I had him pop in JS when he was 20 then I gave him 2 trainings JS, 6 IS and 3 1on1, the pop before took 1 JS, 1 JR and 3 1on1 I thought that was a steep increase but it might be the year difference. He also had 6 trainings in RB without a pop, but 3 of them was not ful minutes (the pop before was 3 trainings for one pop). So the data is not good but to me it looks like its somewhat slowed.

Let me see if I understand. After his last jump shot pop, you gave him 2 weeks jump shot, 6 weeks of inside shot then 3 weeks 1 on 1 training at 20 and did not get a pop? If so, it is pretty safe to say he was capped. I would not expect that much of a decrease in training from 19 to 20. Even if you mean he was 21, that is really slow training.

If this is what you are saying, I think it is pretty safe for me to use his data.

Almost right. He did pop at 20, then I gave him "2 weeks jump shot, 6 weeks of inside shot then 3 weeks 1 on 1 training" and then he poped again. I dont have the data on this computer but if I remember correctly the JS-training was still at 20y then 6 IS and 3 1on1 at 21y.

I have a Star player who should be capping next season, would you like his info when he does?

I have a Star player who should be capping next season, would you like his info when he does?

I will take any and all info. for this study whenever I can get it. I do not think I am going to solve this any time soon, without a lot more data. Let me know when he caps.