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From: malice

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Even picking up a handful of users could help a lot in some cases, that's why I still think Utopia was a very bad idea and offering a second team in a different nation would have been the much better option. But that ship has sailed, so...

If you go from 7 users to 25 or so, at least one full division is running...

Agreed. Still... if we're considering the drastic measure of ending nations, why not consider the not-quite-as-drastic re-thinking second teams?

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From: Knecht

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In my opinion everything should be open, but it was already said that Utopia won't be changed, so the only think we could probably discuss would be a third team option.

Dismantling Utopia would probably hurt the feelings of many users that spent time and dedication to build those teams. So I understand that Utopia cannot be touched now.

As long as something happens soon, I think it can only improve the situation.

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Date: 5/30/2016 7:56:40 AM
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We're outside the limits of what BB regard as a candidate for merging


I sure hope you're wrong. I'd like to see than save the game, not just tinker more and more, endlessly, letting it slide into oblivion. Time will tell.

Definitely, but during this whole thread the only responses made by BBs have been with regards to the plans they laid out in the original post. The possibility of a wider merger has not been mentioned so presumably they're not interested in it at all.

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Ok gonna make that more brief-
Putting 2nd teams in micros wont stop them from being micros and everyone who wants it wants it not to stop them from being micros but to have another/to have A micro team. People want micros when they ask for 2nd teams in micros.

Quit trying to sell it is a solution to micros. Its the exact opposite- its another attempt to exploit micros even further.

That... doesn't make a whole lot of sense dude. If 2nd teams were allowed to go wherever, and a nation went from 15 users to 100, it wouldn't be a micro any more.

But as Knecht said, this is just talk. They're not touching Utopia.

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Exploit is an ugly word. Almost like cheating. Micros are a more carefree way to play the game - which is perfectly fine. It only sucks when a new team joins and has no chance to catch up in a "normal" timeframe.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 5/30/2016 9:36:35 AM
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100 is still pisspoor competition. We see teams in that scenario that promote and can't afford to staff enough salaries to meet the floor. This is happening in nations larger than 100.


Not the argument tho', dude. Fixing micros is.

Anyway, as Knecht said: irrelevant-pipe-dream-discussion! My bad...

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lack of competion IS the micro issue

From your perspective, tho' as a NT U21 coach - I'd enjoy more options there! I think the BBs want to create a situation that sustains, or perhaps even encourages growth (and thus $$$).

And we'll have to disagree that:
100 is still pisspoor competition.


Last edited by malice at 5/30/2016 9:24:06 PM

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