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I have two concerns about the Utopia idea:
1) It does nothing to solve the idea of micronations. I'm afraid that these are increasingly becoming dead ends with no hope of getting anywhere interesting.
2) A Utopia is inorganic. One of the charms of fitting into the existing structure would be to compete in countries where one might have some connection and to grow within an already existing system. The addition of more teams in any large country would hardly have made a difference to the total number there and could have revitalized small countries.

Anyway, let's see how it goes.

I continue to think that the best idea is that the users can have a second team in a micronation or in an Utopia country (they have to choose between the 2 options). So if a 99th country is created, that means it will be very easy for the dev' to allow a second team in another country. We can still convince them :)

Thanks, Marin. I was in support of this supporter nation from the start, and I agree it's the best way to implement this feature.

Still haven't heard a good argument against it. If you've got one, I'd love to hear it.

1. Doesn't solve micro nation problem. Let's say I'm very generous and there are 1000 supporters. With almost 100 countries, each country would get on average 10 more users if we let second teams in existing countries. Wow! That would have solved the problem! The only way the original solution was going to help active users in micro nations was to allow them to set up another team in a more competitive country. They can still do that.

2. Wanted to have a second team in a micro nation. Why? You do realize that's part of the problem they're trying to fix. Perhaps it's personal preference and that's fine, but it seems like the majority of users are looking for something more competitive (99th country) rather than less competitive.

3. Having a team in a 99th country is like a private league. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Everybody has its own reasons, everybody should be able to choose.

I agree and I said my opinion was in favor of second teams in micronations, but:

If someone in Senegal chose he does not want foreigners in Senegal ? Do we hear your voice or his ? How do we force people to vote ? How do we handle people who did not vote or came after the vote and do not agree with the vote ?

If someone in Bolivia chose he does not want foreigners in Bolivia while all Bahamas are for it ? Do we have to create rules one country by one country ?

For me, we should force (sorry, but yeah) the second teams in micronations and people would see afterwards that the problems aren't that big. Yet, that is not the opion of many people and currently not the option the BBs took.

Everybody has its own reasons, everybody should be able to choose.

I agree and I said my opinion was in favor of second teams in micronations, but:

If someone in Senegal chose he does not want foreigners in Senegal ? Do we hear your voice or his ? How do we force people to vote ? How do we handle people who did not vote or came after the vote and do not agree with the vote ?

If someone in Bolivia chose he does not want foreigners in Bolivia while all Bahamas are for it ? Do we have to create rules one country by one country ?

For me, we should force (sorry, but yeah) the second teams in micronations and people would see afterwards that the problems aren't that big. Yet, that is not the opion of many people and currently not the option the BBs took.

For me, we should force (sorry, but yeah) the second teams in micronations and people would see afterwards that the problems aren't that big. Yet, that is not the opion of many people and currently not the option the BBs took.