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23982.77 in reply to 23982.76
Date: 4/14/2008 4:02:56 AM
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I read every single post on this thread and...mmh..let's see what I'll write!

- Salary reduction is not necessary NOW: I think that NT player's salaries are not so high to justify a reduction, in particular because now a 40k-salary player makes difference.
I agree to raonne when he said that it will be not the fairest thing tryin' to train a 25yo player and sacrifice a slot in order to a patriottic desire to be on top of the world.
Maybe there will be some 21-22yo players who'll give you more W than one only 25yo national player and if we combine that unpleasent possibility to the slowness of training pops then I'll agree giving some reward, but now it's not necessary.

- Now our transfer list is totally crazy: there are some very bad prices, there are some very low prices, bad players, strong players and I really don't understand nothing about how people decide to spend their money.
There are too much money in my opinion and I totally disagree about the introduction of another crazy unsteady and another crazy amount of money.
That until we can see a right market balance.

- Joining another economy-topic: I think that introduct a reduction will get the birth to a very sickening NT trading, above all for little nation or for players who have the possibility to stay in bench just like to stay at home.
And without talking strictly about trading, having a NT player gives you a clear advantage when you're approaching to sale him.
People spend so much money for a NT player, and they will spend quite a lot than earlier because they'll calculate to recover that outcome by the reduction of the salary.
All of this is an advantage for the previous owner, who will count his money like Scrooge Mc Duck.

Well, in conclusion I'm absolutely against any reduction for the next 1 or 2 seasons.

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23982.78 in reply to 23982.76
Date: 4/14/2008 4:04:58 AM
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so to have it arcade mode would necessitate a change.


i think BBs won't spend a lot of time to make this change..

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23982.79 in reply to 23982.75
Date: 4/14/2008 4:12:42 AM
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Dunno when it will be done but today there isn't necessity to make this "free" contribution. Probably neither in the future if the injury will be cancelled from National team matchs, that's my point of view ;)




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23982.80 in reply to 23982.79
Date: 4/14/2008 4:40:26 AM
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Dunno when it will be done but today there isn't necessity to make this "free" contribution. Probably neither in the future if the injury will be cancelled from National team matchs, that's my point of view ;)




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23982.81 in reply to 23982.80
Date: 4/14/2008 6:04:21 AM
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Whoops that's what I meant too:) Just delete the injury part and you've got arcade. That sounds gooood to me too so i'll say: quote!

From: Bevzil

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23982.82 in reply to 23982.63
Date: 4/14/2008 12:43:52 PM
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I really don't understand your point... So what, you're planning to train players for a couple of seasons and sell them??? What if I want one player to play for my team for his whole career???

And let's say this, I'm training my players till their 24th year, and you're changing your players every 1-2 years... If we play against each other, who do you think will win: My team, with tremendous players, or your team, with strong players???

I do not plan to train 5 players till they are 24 or so, but I have 3 trainees that I like, and I got used to them and don't want to sell them... Even if they don't get even close to the NT... And I'm gonna keep them cause I want my team to have something like a trade mark :D, and not to become an industrial tape of different players every year...

Ad BBs said they want to make this best basketball simulator ever... Well, if they want to simulate real basketball, I'll be able to keep my players... When they get to where I'm leading them, I will simply switch to other positions to train...

P.S I really should become GM :D

From: raonne

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23982.83 in reply to 23982.82
Date: 4/14/2008 1:23:09 PM
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And let's say this, I'm training my players till their 24th year, and you're changing your players every 1-2 years... If we play against each other, who do you think will win: My team, with tremendous players, or your team, with strong players???

hahahaha. dude, if you are training 24-25 year-olds and I'm training always 18-19s, I will be the one with tremendous players, not you... That's the whole point. Even if you had a good head start, I'd catch up and blow by you in a couple of seasons tops.

I don't think arcade mode is the solution. Simply removing the injuries doesn't solve all the problems because you would still have the INEFFICIENT TRAINING problem. Users will stop training the NT players at a certain age and the NTs will be dominated by FARM TEAMS, and I think we all agree that we don't want that.

From: Bevzil

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23982.85 in reply to 23982.83
Date: 4/14/2008 2:53:20 PM
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I think, in the end, it will all be the same... Why? Listen carefully:

Let's say I train my players for myself, and I keep 3 of them and sell 2... I would train those 2 until they are 20, and sell them when they are marvelous... If you train your 5 players you'll sell them when they are proficient... Every year you'll have to buy 4-5 good trainees, and you know how expensive they are... You may get 1 on the draft :D And while you're spending whole lot of money on the rest of the team (let's say if you train SG/PG, you must buy SF/PF/C), I'm getting those kind of players by training... And I still can buy good players by selling those 2 every couple of years...

Cause, on the higher levels, the prices will be a lot higher... If everyone would do like you, then the market would be full of those 1-year trainees, and they would be a lot cheaper then the ones trained for more years...

For example, I bought a center with 4 respectable main Skills for 550k, and I bought other one who has 3 respectable Skills and 1 proficient, and I payed 780k... That's 230k difference, and it's just two points difference in one Skill... Now, can you imagine how big that difference will be on higher Skills? And yes, you may say I overpaid them, but that's the cheapest price I got in days...

From: raonne

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23982.86 in reply to 23982.85
Date: 4/14/2008 3:16:39 PM
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You seem to think that I'll be training strong, proficient players.. Every player in my squad (apart from the retired future hall of famer Marcel) have prolofic skills. But anywy, whatever, you keep your plan and i'll stick to mine. Good luck to you.

In the mean time, I say NO to farm teams and YES to salary reductions!

From: Bevzil

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23982.87 in reply to 23982.86
Date: 4/14/2008 4:25:37 PM
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I was saying, when you buy new trainees, they'll be respectable at most (if they are 18 years old), and with the slower training they'll be proficient or so...

The only reason I will do this my way is because I like my players, and I get used to them... Those pretty faces ;) Good luck to you too!

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