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254079.700 in reply to 254079.699
Date: 1/25/2014 10:28:01 PM
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Considering how lopsided the numbers must be Supporters vs Non supporters,
Its surprising that the yes side leads at all.
Whether its because some just don't have the $$$ to pay for supporter or
are just too cheap to do so, there is no question that the harshest opinions for or against the idea come from that side.
So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.

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254079.701 in reply to 254079.700
Date: 1/25/2014 10:43:02 PM
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".
I guess there's also the people who don't want their country 'invaded', but they are countered by people who welcome outsiders.

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Date: 1/26/2014 5:59:05 AM
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".


That's probably because you haven't read the whole 700 posts that are posted in this thread.

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Date: 1/26/2014 6:18:21 AM
Ghost Masters
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So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.


Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.

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Date: 1/26/2014 7:39:56 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Canada Purple Haze BC
Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.


No,that's wrong as well.
I think this thread may have become too big for you to ready everything.
The BB have stated that there will be a change in policy.
That they will now consult everyone more often as in this thread to gain popular opinion.
The temptation for abuse will be no different than it is right now, except...
The abusers that are caught will lose 2 teams and their supporter.
A lot of managers don't want that?
However, a lot more do and as I stated earlier, the ones that don't want it most are those that for one reason or another don't have supporter, that made the selfish opinion easy

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254079.705 in reply to 254079.704
Date: 1/26/2014 7:59:46 AM
Ghost Masters
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I think this thread may have become too big for you to ready everything.

And this is why people forget that there are good arguments against 2nd team but thread is so big that no one can find it :)

The BB have stated that there will be a change in policy.
That they will now consult everyone more often as in this thread to gain popular opinion.


They also stated that this is different change, a big change, globalization of BB if you will and this is one of the reason they started to make these polls.

The temptation for abuse will be no different than it is right now, except...
The abusers that are caught will lose 2 teams and their supporter.


I am not talking onlyabout cheating, I already stated before how easy and fun would it be to farm or tank (or do both) with first team while enjoying playing with second team in exotic Bahamas.

However, a lot more do and as I stated earlier, the ones that don't want it most are those that for one reason or another don't have supporter, that made the selfish opinion easy

Yes, there are people like that, but there are also a lot of people who don't want this total overhaul of BB system based on nationality and potential abuse.

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254079.706 in reply to 254079.702
Date: 1/26/2014 8:34:51 AM
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Can you find me one of those posts?

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254079.707 in reply to 254079.706
Date: 1/26/2014 9:06:25 AM
Ghost Masters
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My all posts are against 2nd team start with that :)

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254079.708 in reply to 254079.705
Date: 1/26/2014 10:49:11 AM
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Totally agree...

I´d only like to say that if any time i buy or win a supporter (here in forums sometimes we make games giving supporter packs as price, actually i never have been supporter but i gived one to other user), i will never will start a second team... I don´t like this system not for my own interest, I really believe there is not justice on it.

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254079.709 in reply to 254079.708
Date: 1/26/2014 4:06:13 PM
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Lol justice in a random number generated cyber game. Talk about Epic Fail.

Justice? How about a new user in said, "exotic bahamas". Who gets to earn D1 tv monies/ gate revenue, compare to a poor gut that signs up in Spain and gets D.V tv monies/ gate revenue.

Yeah Justice. Get out of here, that is the weakest arguement ever.

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254079.710 in reply to 254079.703
Date: 1/26/2014 5:02:58 PM
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Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.


I don't understand how it would change the game dramatically. At most, we would be talking about 1000 extra teams. Those that start in big countries would be such a small percentage of the users in that country that there would be no impact. There would be a much greater impact on micronations. Many of us think that micronations should not have been started in the first place and more competition in those leagues would certainly help the game.

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