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254079.698 in reply to 254079.53
Date: 1/25/2014 4:41:15 PM
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Good idea but in my opynion the best one would be to let managers buy a new team as we do for supporters. In this case all can have the possibility to buy a new team paying, also not beeing supporter. So create more choice: have only a team with no supporter, have a team and another one, have a team and a supporter Package, have a team and another team and also supporter.
Obviously this payment could be done for different period, three months, a year, less than supporter Package on payment, than you can continue pay or the team will be BOT. Benefits?? No differences between Supporters and not and more income for buzzerbeater!! Think financially for BB could be the best way to increase income and the way to have the possibility to develope more the game. Only an idea, no words to create contrast .
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Happy BB!


that doesn't make sense. why if I want the supporter package and the second team, i have to pay supporter+new team. if I don't want the supporter package but I want the team, and the second team is on the supporter package, I'll buy the supporter package. so I have my second team and the supporter features, that are cool, even if you don't use them. I thing the better thing is to leave the option in the supporter package and, when someone finish it, he can continue to use the second team.

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254079.699 in reply to 254079.697
Date: 1/25/2014 7:40:10 PM
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instead of adding managers to micronations you'd better assemble small countries which are geographically close to each other.
I'd prefer an "African club championship" than seeing my country invaded by asian or european players who do not know anything and do not care about it
I am pretty sure than most of 2nd team's managers will come in smallest countries only to play in an easier league than their current ones


As a Senegalese, i would love to compete with other african managers. But if all africans managers play an african championship there won't be South Africa, Egypt or Senegal anymore. How do you do with NTs ? No more african NTs ?

Nothing is perfetc, but i think that this 2d team idea is the good one to boost competition in micronations AND increase BB's income at the same time


I think doesn´t have to desappear this NT... join countries in leagues but only the league... each team has his own nationality and the drafters come from the team nationality... even i think the cup could be like now, one country one cup.... join the teams from some countries in one league but the other stuffs the same like now...

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254079.700 in reply to 254079.699
Date: 1/25/2014 10:28:01 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Considering how lopsided the numbers must be Supporters vs Non supporters,
Its surprising that the yes side leads at all.
Whether its because some just don't have the $$$ to pay for supporter or
are just too cheap to do so, there is no question that the harshest opinions for or against the idea come from that side.
So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.

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254079.701 in reply to 254079.700
Date: 1/25/2014 10:43:02 PM
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".
I guess there's also the people who don't want their country 'invaded', but they are countered by people who welcome outsiders.

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254079.702 in reply to 254079.701
Date: 1/26/2014 5:59:05 AM
Ghost Masters
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".


That's probably because you haven't read the whole 700 posts that are posted in this thread.

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254079.703 in reply to 254079.700
Date: 1/26/2014 6:18:21 AM
Ghost Masters
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So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.


Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.

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254079.704 in reply to 254079.703
Date: 1/26/2014 7:39:56 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.


No,that's wrong as well.
I think this thread may have become too big for you to ready everything.
The BB have stated that there will be a change in policy.
That they will now consult everyone more often as in this thread to gain popular opinion.
The temptation for abuse will be no different than it is right now, except...
The abusers that are caught will lose 2 teams and their supporter.
A lot of managers don't want that?
However, a lot more do and as I stated earlier, the ones that don't want it most are those that for one reason or another don't have supporter, that made the selfish opinion easy

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254079.705 in reply to 254079.704
Date: 1/26/2014 7:59:46 AM
Ghost Masters
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I think this thread may have become too big for you to ready everything.

And this is why people forget that there are good arguments against 2nd team but thread is so big that no one can find it :)

The BB have stated that there will be a change in policy.
That they will now consult everyone more often as in this thread to gain popular opinion.


They also stated that this is different change, a big change, globalization of BB if you will and this is one of the reason they started to make these polls.

The temptation for abuse will be no different than it is right now, except...
The abusers that are caught will lose 2 teams and their supporter.


I am not talking onlyabout cheating, I already stated before how easy and fun would it be to farm or tank (or do both) with first team while enjoying playing with second team in exotic Bahamas.

However, a lot more do and as I stated earlier, the ones that don't want it most are those that for one reason or another don't have supporter, that made the selfish opinion easy

Yes, there are people like that, but there are also a lot of people who don't want this total overhaul of BB system based on nationality and potential abuse.

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254079.706 in reply to 254079.702
Date: 1/26/2014 8:34:51 AM
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Can you find me one of those posts?

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254079.707 in reply to 254079.706
Date: 1/26/2014 9:06:25 AM
Ghost Masters
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My all posts are against 2nd team start with that :)

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254079.708 in reply to 254079.705
Date: 1/26/2014 10:49:11 AM
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Totally agree...

I´d only like to say that if any time i buy or win a supporter (here in forums sometimes we make games giving supporter packs as price, actually i never have been supporter but i gived one to other user), i will never will start a second team... I don´t like this system not for my own interest, I really believe there is not justice on it.

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