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254079.694 in reply to 254079.692
Date: 1/24/2014 4:15:52 PM
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Isn´t there any other way to fix the problem with the so few teams in micronations? I think yes, i can imagine some, like join very small leagues in others bigger... to get 3 divisions each ones...
Is BB having problems with money? I´m reading no... so i will believe in that word... so don´t need the second team...
Will more money help to fix problems with the game? I don´t think so, really if you think it well, more games to simulate can create a problem to fix, so this money, i think just will be destinate to fix problems that itself create... more transfers will create problems too... more trainning, etc... i remember when, not so much time ago, we had to wait to see training or boxscores....

Do you think the pros, are really pros??? or just something we didn´t think enough about it... Like in chess, we might think about the 4 or 5 or 20 future movement...

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254079.696 in reply to 254079.2
Date: 1/25/2014 11:33:02 AM
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I disagree with the creation of second teams!
players with more economic possibilities have already the advantage of playing the private leagues;
this way, "richer players" will be even more favoured and the oteher players will feel like "second class" players;

this would create a bigger gap between BB-supporters and the rest of the users.

I hope this idea won´t get aplied.

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254079.697 in reply to 254079.693
Date: 1/25/2014 2:45:15 PM
DK Shaolins
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instead of adding managers to micronations you'd better assemble small countries which are geographically close to each other.
I'd prefer an "African club championship" than seeing my country invaded by asian or european players who do not know anything and do not care about it
I am pretty sure than most of 2nd team's managers will come in smallest countries only to play in an easier league than their current ones


As a Senegalese, i would love to compete with other african managers. But if all africans managers play an african championship there won't be South Africa, Egypt or Senegal anymore. How do you do with NTs ? No more african NTs ?

Nothing is perfetc, but i think that this 2d team idea is the good one to boost competition in micronations AND increase BB's income at the same time

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254079.698 in reply to 254079.53
Date: 1/25/2014 4:41:15 PM
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Good idea but in my opynion the best one would be to let managers buy a new team as we do for supporters. In this case all can have the possibility to buy a new team paying, also not beeing supporter. So create more choice: have only a team with no supporter, have a team and another one, have a team and a supporter Package, have a team and another team and also supporter.
Obviously this payment could be done for different period, three months, a year, less than supporter Package on payment, than you can continue pay or the team will be BOT. Benefits?? No differences between Supporters and not and more income for buzzerbeater!! Think financially for BB could be the best way to increase income and the way to have the possibility to develope more the game. Only an idea, no words to create contrast .
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Happy BB!


that doesn't make sense. why if I want the supporter package and the second team, i have to pay supporter+new team. if I don't want the supporter package but I want the team, and the second team is on the supporter package, I'll buy the supporter package. so I have my second team and the supporter features, that are cool, even if you don't use them. I thing the better thing is to leave the option in the supporter package and, when someone finish it, he can continue to use the second team.

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254079.699 in reply to 254079.697
Date: 1/25/2014 7:40:10 PM
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instead of adding managers to micronations you'd better assemble small countries which are geographically close to each other.
I'd prefer an "African club championship" than seeing my country invaded by asian or european players who do not know anything and do not care about it
I am pretty sure than most of 2nd team's managers will come in smallest countries only to play in an easier league than their current ones


As a Senegalese, i would love to compete with other african managers. But if all africans managers play an african championship there won't be South Africa, Egypt or Senegal anymore. How do you do with NTs ? No more african NTs ?

Nothing is perfetc, but i think that this 2d team idea is the good one to boost competition in micronations AND increase BB's income at the same time


I think doesn´t have to desappear this NT... join countries in leagues but only the league... each team has his own nationality and the drafters come from the team nationality... even i think the cup could be like now, one country one cup.... join the teams from some countries in one league but the other stuffs the same like now...

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254079.700 in reply to 254079.699
Date: 1/25/2014 10:28:01 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Considering how lopsided the numbers must be Supporters vs Non supporters,
Its surprising that the yes side leads at all.
Whether its because some just don't have the $$$ to pay for supporter or
are just too cheap to do so, there is no question that the harshest opinions for or against the idea come from that side.
So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.

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254079.701 in reply to 254079.700
Date: 1/25/2014 10:43:02 PM
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".
I guess there's also the people who don't want their country 'invaded', but they are countered by people who welcome outsiders.

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254079.702 in reply to 254079.701
Date: 1/26/2014 5:59:05 AM
Ghost Masters
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Completely agree. I haven't seen many arguments against second teams other than "I don't want supporters to get way more than me".


That's probably because you haven't read the whole 700 posts that are posted in this thread.

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254079.703 in reply to 254079.700
Date: 1/26/2014 6:18:21 AM
Ghost Masters
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So much of their reasoning however is based on fantasy or jealousy but so much of the time not in actual fact.


Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.

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254079.704 in reply to 254079.703
Date: 1/26/2014 7:39:56 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Yes maybe many don't have flawless reasoning, but you can't deny the fact that this would change BB dramatically, otherwise they wouldn't ask us, BB didn't made a poll on GDP for example, this would change the face of BB, it would become global and all these restrictions shows that 2nd team is a big temptation for abuse. A lot of managers don't want that and poll shows that.


No,that's wrong as well.
I think this thread may have become too big for you to ready everything.
The BB have stated that there will be a change in policy.
That they will now consult everyone more often as in this thread to gain popular opinion.
The temptation for abuse will be no different than it is right now, except...
The abusers that are caught will lose 2 teams and their supporter.
A lot of managers don't want that?
However, a lot more do and as I stated earlier, the ones that don't want it most are those that for one reason or another don't have supporter, that made the selfish opinion easy

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