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Definitley serious.

One pint that Malice kinda makes/is making is that for competing in our league the financial challenge is very real for new teams...in some ways with minimum salary it could actually be harder for a new team. They will ahve to pay a DI floor before they could build arena unless someone tells them very soon/quick to get it done and they ahve to build a DI/B3 level roster quickly to even have hope of competing, otherwise its crush bots and be crushed by eveyrone else...so its real crummy in this sense.

Spot on! Sheesh dude... you're on a roll! It only ends up being any sort of advantage (at all!) if you're capable, and survive the initial onslaught. How many times have we had someone join the JBBL mid-season, and quit before the end, for the very reasons you list? Crazy...

There are people who depend on this game to pay the bills and if they're not comfortable taking a risk of that nature, it's completely understandable.

Seems they had an easy life so far - if they don't make ambitious changes they better start looking for some other sources of income, as the soil their profit is coming from, is eroding very fast...

There are people who depend on this game to pay the bills and if they're not comfortable taking a risk of that nature, it's completely understandable.

Seems they had an easy life so far - if they don't make ambitious changes they better start looking for some other sources of income, as the soil their profit is coming from, is eroding very fast...

I manage a very small online game. It is a lot of work and it does not generate enough money to pay the bills for the server alone..don't start with the time i spent to develop everything.

It is not the same as BB, but still, you should respect the work the developers put into this game at least a little...

I am sorry, but as the narrative goes, this was a students project and although it did not turn out to become facebook, it was very succesful for a very long time - I hope it will become great again, but the effort put into keeping the game a top product, was simply not there.

You guys - and I have been preaching this for years - better stop seeing this game as something we need to be thankful for. It's a product that the owners want to sell and make money with - there is no such thing as respect necessary, as respect does not pay bills or salaries.

If some kind of dying company - lets say some newspaper goes bankrupt - I don't see the urge to feel or express some respect. It's just a manifesto of bad business decisions, same applies for this game. If this game ceases to exist people will find other ways to spend their time and money.

Maybe my point of view will be seen as cynic or whatever, but it's the plain truth.

Here I think the smart business thing-
#1 not mess with macros that are not having issue with their size or structure
#2 Eliminate the micros that are a problem and don't work
#3 Try to retain customers impacted by this-micros as much as possible but
#4 Focus on the parts of the model that work and are cost effective.

If you think of it as a business, then eliminating a small, yet basically free-to-run micro is simply not good business practice. I can't imagine micros cost more to run than the small amount of money they bring in.

If a decision is made to do a large scale merge than everyone will be included in that poll. You have to keep in mind that doing something like that would be extremely ambitious and the results could vary from significant improvement to absolute catastrophe. There are people who depend on this game to pay the bills and if they're not comfortable taking a risk of that nature, it's completely understandable. It's a lot easier to push for massive changes when you've got nothing on the line.

I can't argue with any of that at all. It is a viewpoint that the people who depend on this game for their living may share.

Allowing a slow, inexorable slide may buy time for them to find another cash cow. Or it may cause them to be "ambitious" and save this game. Time will tell, eh?

They definitely need to and probably do take responsibility for the results of their decisions but you are belying the point I think.

Here I think the smart business thing-
#1 not mess with macros that are not having issue with their size or structure
#2 Eliminate the micros that are a problem and don't work
#3 Try to retain customers impacted by this-micros as much as possible but
#4 Focus on the parts of the model that work and are cost effective.

Making huge expensive risky moves to solve a few angry voices is madness. I want big changes, I think its a great idea etc. but its probably not practical.

Unless then have some capital to invest in advertising to this brave new real world- drastic changes don't make sense.

It's like shaking a fragile piece of art as if it were a snow globe. Wrong solution to wrong problem. At least that is how I see it. Steady, subtle and smart. Radical doesn't work if you don't have any money or resources to even begin to be radical with.

#1 not yet. but if some kind of change only happens in 1 or 2 calendar years, some of them might be in trouble
#2, 3, 4 absolutely

I think the owners need to take a huge risk and leapfrog other availiable games out there. As far as I know one of the main guys is part of a private equity company and there are many other ways to get the money to invest in necessary changes. Utopia was/is a HUGE chunk of money - where did it end up? Server and maintenance bills? I don't know...