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ii just believe i can play for free, becuase there are many ways to get incomes...

What makes you believe that? The are only four ways you can play it for free:
- BB developers do it as a gift for you (for what ever reason)
- You are a close relative to BB developers and they love you
- Somebody else pay for you for what ever reason
- You are needed here because without critical mass of players it will not be interesting for those who pay

As you can see none of this four is really for free as somebody else has to pay for what ever reason and fourth is just a really upsetting reason to get it for free.

You always choose your own.

You brought up a very good point - micronations a lot already have "foreign" managers for their NT teams - the only issue as I see it is that the influx of supporter managers will infringe on the fiefdom of the small number native managers that lackadaisically manage their teams will a minimal concern of defeat or relegation. That to me is the real issue - change that will actually light the fires of competition. And truly how many managers will actually take up a second team - certainly not 100%. And of those that accept how many will actually flood one small nation?? Unlikely that all will go to one place. The answer is clear - a second team that will be operated by some (most) supporters will beef up competition in those moribund communities. Larger nations will have nothing to fear - most players that opt for second teams will not invade in a tsunami of inscriptions those larger nations. As for cheaters - welcome to the human race - cheaters have always existed and will always exist, this is a non issue. Let's evolve and embrace change not fear it.

Anyway, the main problem I have, is with people attacking the very principles of BuzzerBeater. It has always been a non-profitable organization, created only for enjoyment of it's users. Everyone should at least try to appreciate it.

WOW under which heavy drugs you have come to those ideas?
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Last edited by wellwalker at 1/20/2014 5:15:09 PM

Much bigger problem is managers taking second team and abandoning them because it is too boring, they don't have enough time or they just don't want to pay any more for second team after they got initial fun.

So for micronations (under 20 active teams) I would have even more strict rules for second teams - like no more than one foreign team at a time and a 3 month black out period before new second team can be registered in the country after previous went bot. Or if it is too strict then pre-moderation for microleague second team requests.

Raiding microleagues with supporters who may abandon their second teams anytime potentially can kill all those leagues.

Anyway 50% seems way too much. I say no more than 20% of second teams in a country.

Last edited by wellwalker at 1/20/2014 5:26:10 PM

ii just believe i can play for free, becuase there are many ways to get incomes...

What makes you believe that? The are only four ways you can play it for free:
- BB developers do it as a gift for you (for what ever reason)
- You are a close relative to BB developers and they love you
- Somebody else pay for you for what ever reason
- You are needed here because without critical mass of players it will not be interesting for those who pay

As you can see none of this four is really for free as somebody else has to pay for what ever reason and fourth is just a really upsetting reason to get it for free.

You always choose your own.

I think or my english is so bad (it´s very possible) or you undestand what you want...

Many ways to get incomes, not many ways to play for free... nothing is free... here there are two, banners and supporters... but there are many else, do you know what is philanthropy, or an exchange, you can exchange anything that for you is free (like space in yous page), for something that for other is free... or do you know that many companies need dedicate money for a lot of stuffs, because in most countries around the world, some activities gives some profits by law to destinate the money... I can´t explain very well in english, but in a company, the direct incomes can´t be the only one way to get incomes... companys with indirect incomes grows much more... just need some creativity and knowledge about law...

Very well said but this...

I'm working as a volunteer for the users who care for the game, Supporters and non-Supporters.

... deserve my +1
Thank you for your work.

I suspected I was in love with Perpete by all of his posts in the forums, but the Arnie quote sealed the deal.

Seriously, a few secondary teams coming and leaving I'd the least of micronations worries. It's no different than what's already happening.

Imagine there are 5 active teams country. Suddenly there 5 more teams with guys from different country who may not even be able to communicate with original guys (not everybody knows English, hope that not surprise you). And these guys are much more active then original guys, they are having fun. Being aliens in there own country couple of original guys decide to leave. After some time second team guys become bored or too busy to follow second team and they abandon them. We are in 3 active team completely frustrated country.

So what I'm saying - go with second teams idea it has its positives, just limit allowed proportion of second teams to 20-30% per country and make even more strict restrictions for micronations or use premoderation for second team request for micronations.

Man just go to your philanthropic mood and click at least 1000 banners per day at BB if you greedy enough not to pay Supporter.

The whole game can't leave from indirect income (this is called advertising model) it has to have subscription model also to survive. But it has to provide something in exchange for its subscribers. Not a subscriber? Sorry man, no right to whine about subscribers' features.

I think this is a great idea, i suggested it a couple years ago as well.

I am sure our community could come up with the volunteers to generate names and faces for BB if their staff wanted to work with us

it could also help to make this game a bit more attractive to women, which would boost the number of players