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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 6:00:08 AM
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Sounds good, Wagner. I'm not seeing any issues.

This is the message I'd like you to check out for possible issues: (324689.606)


Looks comprehensive and accurate. Well done and thank you, Wagner. You have put considerable effort into setting up the HGL. Clearly we appointed the right manager as Commissioner. (y)

Thank you MrJ!
It is ready to be published then - yes, on the other, 2 official threads (which marks the time this organizing process actually starts).

Like I mentioned, this info post will be positioned as one of the top posts on both of these threads, at "Announcements" (which are 2nd on actual HGL thread, and 3rd post on HGL Scores-thread).

But first, question who anyone (who knows the answer) are very welcome to answer: is there some kind of time window, after which Pickup match challenges expire?
If there is, it might be necessary for me to send BBMail to each of us participants, to ensure all will notice the start of this match organizing window in time. If not, there is theoretically still plenty of time for managers to react by seeing posts on official threads, and here on this forum.

From: MrJ

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Date: 3/22/2025 6:07:52 AM
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I wouldn't think they would expire. The only expirations seem to be games organised that aren't accepted.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 6:14:25 AM
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I wouldn't think they would expire. The only expirations seem to be games organised that aren't accepted.

Ok, well, we shall trust that then, and I will today publish that announcement on official HGL threads. :)

From: MrJ

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Date: 3/22/2025 6:18:52 AM
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I wouldn't think they would expire. The only expirations seem to be games organised that aren't accepted.

Ok, well, we shall trust that then, and I will today publish that announcement on official HGL threads.


Yeah, I think so. Unless you want to wait a little longer to see if anyone else thinks differently?

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 6:23:16 AM
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Speaking of buzzer-manager.com and Pickup games, as you MrJ were mentioning about both in a same post a while ago (mentioning it doesn't recognize HGL as an official league)...
It doesn't seem like B-M would recognize PU games at all, as they are not visible in schedule.
It would be really cool to be able to search only PU games stats through B-M.
I actually tried to contact (supposedly the owner/staff of) buzzer-manager about completely another issue/suggestion a while ago through BB, but have received no reply.

So questions are these: are you guys aware if buzzer-manager.com is still being developed to some extent, and/or if someone has been able to contact owner/staff of B-M?

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 6:35:07 AM
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I wouldn't think they would expire. The only expirations seem to be games organised that aren't accepted.

Ok, well, we shall trust that then, and I will today publish that announcement on official HGL threads. :)


Yeah, I think so. Unless you want to wait a little longer to see if anyone else thinks differently?

That's a good point, and actually a good idea to wait a bit longer to see if someone else spots any problems.

I have just come to trust the quality of your work so much, that it sometimes could even cause me to draw quick conclusions based only on your opinion. (Maybe being slightly pressed on time affects this, but still it's a good reminder). Having said that, I'm not suggesting you should lower your standards/work quality with regards to HGL, I like how things are right now... :)

From: MrJ

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324689.621 in reply to 324689.619
Date: 3/22/2025 7:14:43 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Speaking of buzzer-manager.com and Pickup games, as you MrJ were mentioning about both in a same post a while ago (mentioning it doesn't recognize HGL as an official league)...
It doesn't seem like B-M would recognize PU games at all, as they are not visible in schedule.
It would be really cool to be able to search only PU games stats through B-M.
I actually tried to contact (supposedly the owner/staff of) buzzer-manager about completely another issue/suggestion a while ago through BB, but have received no reply.

So questions are these: are you guys aware if buzzer-manager.com is still being developed to some extent, and/or if someone has been able to contact owner/staff of B-M?


I'm pretty sure BM has no work being done to it nor has it in years. I have used it for so many years and it has never changed or been updated. Which is fine as it is an excellent tool as is.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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Date: 3/22/2025 7:16:25 AM
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I wouldn't think they would expire. The only expirations seem to be games organised that aren't accepted.

Ok, well, we shall trust that then, and I will today publish that announcement on official HGL threads.


Yeah, I think so. Unless you want to wait a little longer to see if anyone else thinks differently?

That's a good point, and actually a good idea to wait a bit longer to see if someone else spots any problems.

I have just come to trust the quality of your work so much, that it sometimes could even cause me to draw quick conclusions based only on your opinion. (Maybe being slightly pressed on time affects this, but still it's a good reminder). Having said that, I'm not suggesting you should lower your standards/work quality with regards to HGL, I like how things are right now...


You flatter me. You have done an extraordinary amount of work to get this HGL up and ready, mate. I'm not organising my PU games just yet...but will do next week.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/22/2025 7:16:48 AM

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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 7:24:09 AM
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So questions are these: are you guys aware if buzzer-manager.com is still being developed to some extent, and/or if someone has been able to contact owner/staff of B-M?


I'm pretty sure BM has no work being done to it nor has it in years. I have used it for so many years and it has never changed or been updated. Which is fine as it is an excellent tool as is.

It is very valuable tool indeed... And it is free, which I think must always be kept in mind (when "expectations" towards it are being created).
It just has some issues, such as my all time team stats not showing reliably, season missing from the season history, etc., which I wish could be addressed... and if I'm affected, it's like 100% sure I'm not the only one. Of course, we need to remember these are just small personal nitpicks, but as I'm a stat freak of some sort, I prefer to have them right, or not to have them at all. Having said that, I'm probably now going to screw up some HGL stat sheet next season if I end up making one ;D

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 3/22/2025 7:34:52 AM
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I have just come to trust the quality of your work so much, that it sometimes could even cause me to draw quick conclusions based only on your opinion. (Maybe being slightly pressed on time affects this, but still it's a good reminder). Having said that, I'm not suggesting you should lower your standards/work quality with regards to HGL, I like how things are right now... :)


You flatter me. :) You have done an extraordinary amount of work to get this HGL up and ready, mate. I'm not organising my PU games just yet...but will do next week.

Well, you have clearly been the most active and helpful manager from the whole HG community to help get HGL up and running, so you definitely deserve thanks/praise for all your contributions! :)

It has admittedly been a lot of work (which in part only starts when the league starts, hopefully it will all turn out to be manageable in terms of required work/presence), more than I actually expected. And of course, it's still partly work in progress. But laying the strong foundation here is what I aim to do, so it will take off some of the workload from Season 2 and onwards. While it's been a lot of work, I think (and hope) it will be worth it!

From: MrJ

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Date: 3/22/2025 7:38:02 AM
Swan River Serpents
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I have just come to trust the quality of your work so much, that it sometimes could even cause me to draw quick conclusions based only on your opinion. (Maybe being slightly pressed on time affects this, but still it's a good reminder). Having said that, I'm not suggesting you should lower your standards/work quality with regards to HGL, I like how things are right now...


You flatter me. You have done an extraordinary amount of work to get this HGL up and ready, mate. I'm not organising my PU games just yet...but will do next week.

Well, you have clearly been the most active and helpful manager from the whole HG community to help get HGL up and running, so you definitely deserve thanks/praise for all your contributions!

It has admittedly been a lot of work (which in part only starts when the league starts, hopefully it will all turn out to be manageable in terms of required work/presence), more than I actually expected. And of course, it's still partly work in progress. But laying the strong foundation here is what I aim to do, so it will take off some of the workload from Season 2 and onwards. While it's been a lot of work, I think (and hope) it will be worth it!



It will definitely be worth it.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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