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254079.580 in reply to 254079.579
Date: 1/19/2014 11:35:16 AM
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I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would be against something that has the potential to bring in money with little impact for most.


Because of justice is more important than money... in my opinion.


Justice ?


Yes. To allow two teams for money is put the money over the equality... the equality is the first basic thing for understand justice. If money breaks the equality, so money is against the justice.

If you can have two teams for money and i can´t because i can´t pay it, where is justice there???

Pd: justice is not the same of law... law is a social contract, justice is an abstract term. Not always a law is justice.

My english is not very good, i´m sorry.

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254079.581 in reply to 254079.580
Date: 1/19/2014 11:53:55 AM
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Firstly, you're not losing anything by letting some people have second teams.
Allowing the people who pay the choice of a second will bring in more supporters which will bring in more money, which will, in turn, bring in more users, and enhance everyone's gaming experience.
Sure, fairness is important, but it's better for some to be rich and some to be poor than for everyone to be poor.

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254079.582 in reply to 254079.581
Date: 1/19/2014 12:07:19 PM
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Firstly, you're not losing anything by letting some people have second teams.
Allowing the people who pay the choice of a second will bring in more supporters which will bring in more money, which will, in turn, bring in more users, and enhance everyone's gaming experience.
Sure, fairness is important, but it's better for some to be rich and some to be poor than for everyone to be poor.


Don´t worry, i don´t care about lose anything, i care about justice, only justice... i don´t want to have anything more than other one... i just want to be part of a community where I feel the justice is a priority.

And, if nobody is rich, nobody is poor.. if you have 100 for 10 people, and 2 of them have 46 each... the others 8 have only one each... if nobody has more than the justice, all of them will have 10, so no poors and no richs... And i don´t know why i have to explain so basic things here...


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254079.583 in reply to 254079.582
Date: 1/19/2014 12:16:25 PM
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In your example the 8 people are gaining 9 of something. Whereas if secondary teams were not to be, you'd be gaining nothing.

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254079.584 in reply to 254079.583
Date: 1/19/2014 12:28:16 PM
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"Justice"? on a Cybergame, with lots of Randomly Generated Numbers. I've heard it all now.

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254079.585 in reply to 254079.583
Date: 1/19/2014 12:31:29 PM
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Ok, i will explain you in other terms... if i can... to be rich or poor, you need a comparison... if someone has more than others, there will be richs and poors, if everybody have the same, there are not richs and not poors...

Ok, you gain a second team, bb gains money with the second team, and everybody who wants and can pay, gains a lot... who can´t gains the feeling of discrimination...

does the end justifie the means???

Last edited by El santo at 1/19/2014 12:33:15 PM

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254079.587 in reply to 254079.585
Date: 1/19/2014 12:54:46 PM
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But the other people still have their original teams. And the new, secondary teams, don't have advantages because the supporter paid for them (they train the same way, have the same attendance function, the same TV contract, etc.).

The key is the lack of built in advantages on the court for supporters. This is something that BuzzerBeater does extremely well in my opinion. In so many games like this I've played, if you're not a supporter, there's not a chance you'll end up winning. Not the case in BB.

And I'm not so sure how much testing things with your second team will advantage a primary team. The competition will be totall different, the player skills will be different, so I'm not convinced there would be much knowledge gained that could transfer. Besides if you're not a supporter, and you want to learn more about the game- topics you could learn about in more games- then get involved in your nation's community, or ask in the BB forums. The community is very good about sharing knowledge about the game.

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254079.588 in reply to 254079.579
Date: 1/19/2014 1:06:17 PM
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Because of justice is more important than money... in my opinion.

Just 2 things:
Dont ask "El santo" about Philosophy...
...and you are very lucky he doesnt speak better English .
XD

I think BB should give more to people willing to pay as long as the game really keeps free-to-play. Whether it is a second team or something else, I dont know.

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254079.589 in reply to 254079.588
Date: 1/19/2014 1:22:20 PM
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In my humble opinion, "justice" would be to give something back to people who contribute money.

(Or it is right thing to do, if you make philosophical difference between justice and the right thing to do.)

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254079.590 in reply to 254079.586
Date: 1/19/2014 2:50:08 PM
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Do you think you can compare the adventage that gives you the day anyone of us sing in in the game or the country we was born (something we can´t change), with a rule that make a discrimination with the money like a judge... it is not the same, if you can´t see it, i think you have a problem.

It´s right play for long time without pay anything, because is the first thing I read when I came in the game... free and no adventages for supporters... If they allow the second time, this slogan will not be true... If they want i pay, just don´t say it´s free, and i don´t get in the game.

Just think about one thing: why do you think they are asking us? it´s the first time they ask us for a new stuff of the game... so, if you think enought about it, you will see that inside them, they know it´s not good allow the second team... if it was fairy clear, they won´t ask, they will do.

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