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There's just a too big gap between different cultures.

Maybe if we didn't isolate ourselves and encourage others to be understand, one another's cultures, the world would be a better place.

Even more than double the fun, part of the appeal of a 2nd team is being able to go through the progressions of a team all over again. Things that your current, mature team has already experienced and you can't go back and do. Getting your first roster of 18 players. Picking and choosing who gets cut. Prioritizing your first acquisitions on a minimal budget. Training your team's first player(s). Expanding your arena. From small beginnings, making the first playoffs. As an underdog, getting your first upset. Watching your trainees grow into contributors. Your team's first championship. Etc, etc.

There are so many fun stages and dilemmas as your team grows. It'd be fun to experience that again without having to scrap your existing team.

99th Country vs Separate Server. Both are interesting.

99th Country allows you to take advantage of the entire player market, so you can acquire veterans who have skills.

Separate server would be interesting because everyone would start at zero, with no pre-trained players. It'd be like the first season of BB. Every player would be awful. A big gameplay risk is whether the economy would have enough users to be stable. If there's not enough activity, the economy would be incredibly volatile. One cool aspect: Ever wondered if you're a better manager than that guy who started in season 4, but he's just been playing so many more seasons so his team is more built up. Now everyone starts from zero, so you get to see.

I actually think Separate Server sounds like a lot more work. Marin (or whoever) would have to run dual worlds. Dual weekly games, dual offseasons, etc. I don't know what it takes to run BB, but I thought a 99th country is much easier.

I also voted no. But nothing against utopia or another server.

I like the idea of people playing in their own countries. That would break that whole concept.

If it would be implemented as utopia/new server, I might even consider supporter myself.

Aren't we all Earthlings/Human Beings? Why should it matter where 1 was born/or resides, its still on Earth.

When why keep a country concept at all? Just make everything one country.

Timezones and different languages make a huge difference. Possibility to meet up with people and so on.
Not everybody understand English, as I said nothing against "utopia" and competing with other people there.

I voted yes.

I like the idea, and would find it fun to potentially have a second team. I would probably put it in a smaller nation, so I can see what's it's like to compete in the top league(s).
I'm already in a "Utopia" league so to speak (just 10 seasons into the future) full of enough active players that I will never see D.I unless half of them quit the game. I would see no reason to join another.

I would like if you could choose another country with your other team, why? I think that would be just unfair if you had 2 teams in the same league for example, wouldn´t it?

But then again, having 1 team in home country and another team somewhere else, for example in Panama or Turkey, wouldn´t that be cool?

We could just make an english section in every country forum, labelled like "Second Team Foregin Users" or something like that.

Yea i know, i was just discussing with others. ;)

I really like the idea of managing a second team for supporters.
But I agree to the proposal of a server outta the BB-World, it´d fit more to the meaning of BB.

I suggest to create four zones, which could be Europe, Asian, and so on, its good for the time of the games as well.
It is only allowed to do transfers between this zones.
But the Teams of this zones should be abel to do friendly with others of "normal" BB-World and take part in BBB and PL, too.
Also it should be possible to form a NT of one Zone, which could join the NTs compations.

In any case I voted for Yes.

I have a suggestion, why don't our BBs get in touch with other games gamemasters. Hattrick and Trophy Manager have this feature, that I know of. They can tell us some statistics and experiences. How does the community react, how do they prevent cheating? How many people from which countries have joined which countries?

For example, many people here don't want foreigners in their country. Guess what, I don't think those foreigners want to play in your country as well. So yeah, it goes both ways.

Who would join your country, are probably mostly people who know the local language, maybe originated from your country, or feel some kind of attachment to your country. They can even become valuable members of the community.

Micronations are another thing, people would join, just to experience managing teams with large flow of money. But mincronations would welcome more competitiveness anyway, regardless of where they come from. I never got a single message from any player from my country, except for one cheater asking me for password LOL And occasionally NT coaches.

Last edited by Aleksandar at 1/19/2014 7:32:25 AM

I voted yes and I won't talk aboit the different cons amd pros because everything has been said before.

I represent the tiny userbase of Luxembourg, which currently consists of 11 teams(maybe 7 are regularly active) and we
would have more users if our league was more challenging.
Several friends of mine left Luxembourg so that they could compete in bigger countries like Belgium or France to get a higher challenge.
I can imagine that if BB introduces this feature that not only foreign managers would come here, but also some former Lux-players would return. Everyone would benefit out of this and our userbase would exceed 20 users lol

Furthermore, several nations don't support the idea of foreign managers "invading" their country and dominating their leagues, but I don't see a problem here.
We would even welcome foreign competition . I can tank throughout seasons without fearing to lose many games and I am still able to win several times the finals without giving my best shot. We also don't have a good NT/U-21 so we don't fear a sabotage or a loss of draft players
Communications won't be a problem because everybody here speaks at least 4 languages.
BB is only a game and I don't understand that some people argue about the nationalities and the "I only want to talk in my language and play with my fellow local players.
In RL we can't tell to a foreign man to leave or not to enter a country. I also can't force the politicians to kick out all foreigners because I only want to speak my language here and I don't like talking english .

Even if I can partially understand these opinions, it also indicates severe discrimination and racism . I don't accuse anyone of racism, I only want to say that this sort of argumentation could lead to the problem that people misunderstand them as racists.