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From: Marko

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Date: 1/17/2014 3:13:13 PM
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It's not about that. It's about the fact we will be forced to play against foreign managers in our leagues. If I play in Lithuania, I expect to play only against Lithuanians and chat in forums in Lithuanian language, not English.

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Date: 1/17/2014 3:25:21 PM
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Look, it says in the manual, "fans will buy the most expensive seats they can afford". Or something like that. The point is, bleachers cannot suppress lower tiers.

You're free to build more lower tiers, those extra bleachers aren't hurting you. How much money have you wasted? 3k bleachers, which is 600k dollars. You pay that for one week of salaries!

In fact, lower tiers can suppress bleachers in some cases. And that is your case! You're selling 16k bleachers at maximum price of 20 dollars! Meaning, if you had less bleachers and more LT, sure you would gain some extra money on LT, but you would probably lose more on bleachers!

And don't get me started on how bleachers can be your bread and butter in lower leagues. Let's say you have 8k bleachers and 4k lower tiers at some lower league. Your bleacher tickets are at much bigger percentage of the maximum price, than your lower tiers. That means, you're going to return the money way sooner with upgrading your bleachers. Example, if you manage to sell your expanded seats at full price, you need 10 games to return the invested money. If you sell your expanded seats at 50% of the full price, you need 20 games to return the invested money.

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Date: 1/17/2014 3:53:39 PM
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It's not about that. It's about the fact we will be forced to play against foreign managers in our leagues. If I play in Lithuania, I expect to play only against Lithuanians and chat in forums in Lithuanian language, not English.


And Lithuania will surely be invaded by a lot of users to replace all 16 users who are talking in a league forum/chat. Lithuania is one of the country who probably will be the less attracting. Big community, but not as big as USA/Italia/Spain, language of its own, not a small country. The middle of the pack for the middle nations will probably not see a lot of new people. Unless people have roots their, there is no reason to come. If they have roots and speak the local language, are they that scaring ?

But hey, if that thing is a no go, it will be a no go. BB is in no danger, money would be nice and helpful, but we can continue as we are.

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On another note, we may not need a long discussion about arenas. Arguments have been given.


If I had a choice for where my second team would be, I'd choose a country with a robust user base and full divisions of non bot teams down through Div III at least. Starting in Div I against a smaller country's all time best managers would be a bit tough to take week after week. However, that would be fine with me if it was my only option to have a second team.

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254079.531 in reply to 254079.529
Date: 1/17/2014 4:02:30 PM
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What is it, that a BB-official thinks he needs sarcasm to take part in a debate he started? You favor this idea, a lot of user won´t follow you. I can share the argument from the Lithuanian manager, because i don´t like to write english in the league board too. It´s a fact, that this idea will change the whole system BB is based on: Every manager plays in the nation he lives. This is the reason, why i like BB more than other basketball managers. And it is the reason, why i would -sooner or later- quit my supporter and the whole game after such a change.
You can answer to this opinions with ur sarcasm - or u could just accept that there are just other opinions than urs, Mr. Official.

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Date: 1/17/2014 4:29:58 PM
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Maybe that wouldn't touch Lithuanians very hard, but other nations, you mentioned, would be sufficiently affected. Still, I have read almost everything at this thread and I have seen a number of users who disagree with letting foreigners "invade" their countries and I fully understand them. Well, if they have roots there and speak the local language, no big deal then. And for me it is not a no go, I would love to see this feature implemented just for the funds BB would receive. It just shouldn't be done in this path.
Well said, Faultier.

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254079.537 in reply to 254079.526
Date: 1/17/2014 7:04:17 PM
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quite. I know I would build more lower tier second time around.

I'm falling out of love with the idea of a second team. I've been reminded that having a second team dependent on my first team having supporter meant that I walked away from a game I was fond of when I decided not to renew supporter for a bit and then couldn't continue with the second team. As it happens, I decided to play BB more instead.

I think only the Utopia option is 100% interesting to me, although I am curious about starting a team in the USA and running a long term program there to see how the knowledge Ive acquired to date would stack up stateside

Last edited by Elmacca at 1/17/2014 7:11:11 PM

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