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From: Marot
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Yo have explained very good your position. But I think that the complaints are about the incomes, and not about the interenational competitions.

The B3 is only one point where we can see the problem. Is the B3 fair? Well, as you said, this only affects only the 0'2% of the people, so it isn't a big problem. Maybe it could be diferent, with another design (there are some proposals about previous matches for little countries... ) but I am with you: it's a small problem


From 31/01/2010

Its pretty clear, its a problem if incomes.


Abouth we have hit the salary cap...


Show me numbers that we did it. How you know that its happenning on our country, do you have information i dont? Because i've scouted for a long time our communitty and i cant say if leagues have hit the cup or havent yet.

Its better that if you dont know exactly about you talking you dont say nothing.

The thing i really know is that lot of teams in Spain-Itally in medium divisions are losing money every week and lot of them are on red numbers.


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You do know zyler trains his guards with high passing and OD in their early years so it gets done faster.
It does not matter if he has only pitiful JS. He is not done training him and can train that now, next season, and the seasons after.

This debate is about the economy and doesn't matter if you can or cannot beat someone else.

Solution 1- We do not have to hit the cap, blame the Chinese farms with millions of money in div4. This is not our fault in any way so we do not have to be penalized. Why do you want to buy more players any way? To improve? You are already at the cap and don't have to buy new players.

Solution 2- We will make as much money as we want too because there is nothing wrong with it. There is nothing illegal being done so why do we have to change?

Solution 3- If we only put money in your country then that is again, unfair. Why do you deserve more money than the rest of the world? Do you just want more power over us? IF the entire world gets more money then nothing will be changed.

Nothing can be done and this is how the game works. You can't fight it so DEAL WITH IT. We are all just trying to improve our teams but yours are already the best they can be.

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It would not be better for zyler to train a younger player with the same or higher potential that could be more useful than the player he build in very short time,because to be really useful for him he neds to train his french player at least an entire season in jump shot and jump range,while in a season a 18 year old with decent starting skills(not all respectable,average-mediocre in main skills is enough) would be almost at the same level of an almost blocked by potential 20 years old?

Hitting the cap,means that you have a stronger team(surely with good skill/salary ratio players,if you buy a big man with legendary in shot blocking you are simply a bad manager).Is this a bad thing?Really?In the solution 1,we would be in the same actual condition and you will have better teams for you,while the unbalance in the market quickly close up.What is penalizing for you in that scenario?To have a more difficult and a funnier game to play?



Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/21/2010 7:43:05 AM

From: DireWolf

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Its better that if you dont know exactly about you talking you dont say nothing.

The thing i really know is that lot of teams in Spain-Itally in medium divisions are losing money every week and lot of them are on red numbers.


Marot - you've said he doesn't know what he's talking about and then completely validated his point in the very next line.

When the term "salary cap" is being used here, it's talking about a sustainable income limit. Arenas are only ever going to get to a certain capacity, there's going to be a maximum income or "salary cap" at some point and because of the higher user base and competition in countries like Spain and Italy and because of the way that teams seem to have chosen to manage their teams, many of them are either making no money or losing money.

This is not a BB problem, this is a manager problem.

Let's say that Italy was give more money for example, this would simply increase your salary cap temporarily and managers would just buy more players or more expensive players and we'd be back here saying the same things all over again.

As another example, let's look at the BBB competition. ESV Laim is the #1 team in the game but is that because he has the most expensive team or because he has managed his team the best? The Boston Celtics are an Italian team who is top 4 in the BBB this season and seems to be doing just fine.

Once you hit your salary cap and no longer have regular profits coming in then you simply have to sell some players before buying new ones and then use training and tactics in order to advance.

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This is just getting ridiculous... seriously.

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As another example, let's look at the BBB competition. ESV Laim is the #1 team in the game but is that because he has the most expensive team or because he has managed his team the best? The Boston Celtics are an Italian team who is top 4 in the BBB this season and seems to be doing just fine.

Once you hit your salary cap and no longer have regular profits coming in then you simply have to sell some players before buying new ones and then use training and tactics in order to advance.

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BBB is not a problem,it's an excuse.ESV Laim and Boston celtics are great teams,the win because they are strong,but in the past won teams of small countries like Superfly and Toroo when Canada was in a much less competitive situation(Canada is became much more stronger now,their teams are competitive at least in the top divisions)

From: Marot

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I dont think on our league we hit the cap, I pay more than others, but i have more income from merchandising.

The salary cap is really relative... I think we are far to hit it at least on my league.

Once you hit your salary cap and no longer have regular profits coming in then you simply have to sell some players before buying new ones and then use training and tactics in order to advance.


That is now a wrong strategy since the market is really low and its being abused from introducing FA without any control.

From: zyler

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funnily enough this is actually the best post in here to date.

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again this thread is not about my player , though i can tell you your completely wrong about what happens on offense , he gets the ball alot more then you think during the offensive passing.

as for the economy situation my solution is as follows.

leave it as it is , as its how its meant to be.
have a bb explain to you guys that your at your div's cap .

as gm-direwolf has explained , as i have explained , as every other person that isnt from italy or spain has explained

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Date: 8/21/2010 8:03:55 AM
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Yes, ESV Laim and Boston Celtics are strong teams but my question had nothing to do with the BBB, my question was, what makes them strong teams?

Is it because they have more money than everyone else, is it because they have a higher "salary cap" than everyone else in the game or is it because they have managed their teams better than everyone else?

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Date: 8/21/2010 8:08:37 AM
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you only says as a broken disc

leave it as it is , as its how its meant to be.
have a bb explain to you guys that your at your div's cap .


You don't try to explain,that's what makes us sad and hungry.We wrote long posts,losing time to explain some reasoning,and you wrote messages that wrote essentially the two phrases that i quote,that you see as postulations

BBs or everybody else could use that argument,if they use a ample argumentation to demonstare that they are right,as we do with our thoughts and ideas....and to continue to answer us in this way is an in insult to our intelligence,a lack of respect for us

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/21/2010 8:10:04 AM

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