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Date: 10/4/2009 3:49:11 PM
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My second work is "marketing researcher", my first work is "Basketball coach", so I want play a basketball game, no doubt.

Market could fluctuate for some time and then find a breakeven point, this happens in a perfect market economy. BB is not, I know, but let's check the results of new economy level and allow people to find his way to create the team in a new economy era.

Economy is wrong? Ok, but I think you should anticipate economic news for the next season (season 11-12 and so on, as you have done before for GE and these new merchandising adjustments), not for the immediate (among other things this "immediate" is not well defined... WHEN free agent will appear again? for how many days? weeks? months? seasons?).

I don't like FA, even if they are good market affairs (usually), but they don't allow economy to stay in a good level, because many dollars or euros will disappear and many trainers will sell their "self-made players" at low prices.
You have to wait to find a good prospect on the draft LOTTERY, that doesn't show a user ability, but show his... ass! If you wanna buy a good prospect you have to pay a lot, if you wanna but a good player of 22-23 years old you will pay him less of this moment, because there will be some free agent that could be better as skills and you won't favour nobody with your money... because this money will be lost in the BB economy and money won't be earned by a BB user.

That's my opinion, I don't say that I'm right and you're wrong, but the WAY of inform users of that is wrong in a Basketball Manager Browser Game, where you have to program seasons, promotions, how grow talents and targets... my opinion.

EDIT: second point... you said to me that BB would have as primary target to be a Basketball Manager Online, but when I saw and read interesting ideas on "how to improve" the tactical component you, not as Charles, but you as creator of BB are not interested to refine on. I could send a BB-Mail (it's better a real e-mail!) of what could be ameliorate in a short-medium and in a medium-long term :-) with mine and italian point of you

Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 10/4/2009 3:56:40 PM

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Date: 10/4/2009 3:53:38 PM
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IMO, introducing back the FA will have an immediate impact to the current economic state of BB... It might not benefit a lot of teams, but it would really help stabilize the BB economy in the long run...


Why this not happened when we saw players paid 10m four seasons ago when we had players and FAs on the market?
It will help but this is not the key, guys the market is the end of the process not the beginning. In the real life you go to the shops if you've money to spend and if you're the only one to have money be sure the prices at the shops will stay stable, if there are other 100 people like you (with money in the pockets) the prices will raise but what we see on the markets is the final step I hope we can agree on this.

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:27:01 PM
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Why this not happened when we saw players paid 10m four seasons ago when we had players and FAs on the market?


This is not about a few players being sold overpriced sporadically, it is about every player (including crappies) sold as well. It's not about FA's, it is about taking money away.

Why have some managers got to get advantages in every economy fix? If someone bought a player yesterday, ok have a player now, enjoy it!, if have payed overprices.. well, could be a bad choice, but still have that player on the roster so, try to enjoy it!
It's not about taking personal advantages and complining when things aren't good enough for us.

That's my opinion only.

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:32:11 PM
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My question is to "answer" to everyone believes that the FAs will reduce the inflaction not to you ;)

As someone said above I prefer the economy we had last season less money more fun, imho

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:35:34 PM
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Don't talk me about prediction on the market because it's my second work :-) so I know how market works in real life and on BB I could imagine the same... when investigations are depth, market work good with minimal adjustments and... re-introduction of FA is not minimal and moreover not budgeted


Then you should know the devil is in the details. I missed where the BB's announced the details on this round of free agency, particularly what salary/skill threshold will be. I mean, that would be important information to determine that FA is going to drastically reduce the price of players. Can you point me to those details?

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:45:57 PM
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Then you should know the devil is in the details. I missed where the BB's announced the details on this round of free agency, particularly what salary/skill threshold will be. I mean, that would be important information to determine that FA is going to drastically reduce the price of players. Can you point me to those details?


Can you? If not... allow people who knows to answer to my point of view. You seem very aggressive to me and many other and you seem a little bit out of range with your answers.

If BB-Charles or some BB interested will answer to my latest post I will be glad.

Thank you, bye

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:55:22 PM
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Another change during the season? Oh men, you must be kidding. So, managers who are getting the doble of money for their players, can buy now for less money when Free Agents are on the market? This must be another joke. I don´t really understand why you always do this kind of stuff. IMO you´re taking very bad decisions cause they´re really unfair for loads of managers.

If the market is so high:

-Check most of transactions to be sure there is no cheat.
-Let the market flow (You made a mistake with incoming money this season, ok, but let it the whole season)


I´m really dissapointed at this point :(

Last edited by Mr.Mac at 10/4/2009 4:57:07 PM

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Date: 10/4/2009 4:55:47 PM
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I'd re-read this thread from the beginning for a bit of perspective. My angle is I think this will be a good move that will have an effect somewhere between slowing inflation and slight deflation. There's not enough information out to come to the conclusion that this will have any more effect then that. Since there's really not much good from continuing with high inflation, then there's not a lot of risk here.

Yet many here seem to think this is a major change. Why?

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Date: 10/4/2009 5:17:13 PM
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As GM-Fotocopiatior said, this is becoming a "lucky game" and not a "think on what you should do to improve game". The incoming money was really shock for us and made training and cup tournament less worthy. I saw some sellings in my league close to be a cheat and I´m really dissapointed because I think the work I did last seasons became useless...

..........

I´m running out of faith :(

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Date: 10/4/2009 5:35:23 PM
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I don't hear very many in here making up sad stories about them.


just because it is useless to come here in BB-global and say something.


I'm sorry but this isn't true. A lot of changes to made born here. The staff of BB always read what we have to say about every topic.




I'm agree with GM-Fotocopiador's comments. The random and lucky factor here was too big, and is unfair. Until now I was very pleased with the measures taken in the game, because they were all warned in time, and we can do somthign with time to avoid any dramatic change, and was fair for all. But this is something unexpected, furthermore, days ago was talking in this forum that this would be regulated just with time, and that make this MORE unexpected.

To finish my point, maybe a good idea is make this change forever. Let's keep the free agent market, money is always increasing, and they could serve as a self-regulating system.

(Sorry if I have grammatical faults, but my written english is not the best, I would say more but it would be repeating what others have said)



Last edited by Stratos at 10/4/2009 5:36:31 PM

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Date: 10/4/2009 6:50:18 PM
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The biggest problem with the return of Free Agency is that it WILL, in fact, reduce prices and slow down the inflation that has been making TL pretty uncertain.

But the clubs with deeper pockets - who have also the deep rosters - that are still gaining a shit load of money due to Arena selling will feel like paradise now: getting 2kk with the selling and shopping in a much more tight TL then we - second tier and lower teams, since up to now we were already fucked because we couldn't already compete with them at TL.

But with the Free Agency, teams like Tooroo, Sharman, Asingratos, Hostvar, div.I Italy, US and Spain will rape in 2-3 weeks.


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