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Season 15 (age 21):
Plan - get one more level of OD, then train JS all season

His last week on the U21, he looks like:

Jump Shot: wondrous (+3) Jump Range: prolific (+1)
Outside Defense: wondrous (+1) Handling: sensational (+1)
Driving: tremendous (+1) Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: inept Inside Defense: strong
Rebouding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: pitiful Free Throws: awful

Yay for Steve! If his potential is allstar, he's probably hit it now, or possibly a couple of pops earlier than that. With higher potential, he can keep training into his age 22 season, and possibly beyond, and on to national team glory (depending on just how high his potential is).

That was all just an example, with estimated training speeds, but the pop rates seem reasonable based on my observations of various players. Also, Steve was lucky enough to stay injury free, but that is somewhat offset by his 6'4" height (which slows him down compared to, say, a 5'11" guy). The main goal was to give an idea of how an U21 training program might go for a particular player, in terms of types of training and general development.

Ok, that's all from me, for now. :)

Last edited by The Mogul at 4/22/2010 11:33:36 PM

One extra thing!

Details on what trains what, with rough speed estimates: (78242.1)

Fantastic post! Cudo's to you for putting this together. These types of 'How To' post are incredibly helpful. I still refer to the post HPP made a season or two ago. And will surely do the same with this one.

Thanks again!

One extra thing!

Details on what trains what, with rough speed estimates: (78242.1)

I am starting to wonder if this is true. I was foolish enough to train a player from atrocious IS and have him currently up to strong. In that time I trained IS for 14+ weeks and got no secondary pop in ID. Is there a reason why? I have a level 5 trainer and the player has pretty decent potential(have a look he is on your U21 team) ;)

Terrific job Mogul. This is an excellent write up and should be ESSENTIAL reading for almost every BB manager no matter how experienced. Training young players is an absolute must for any manager who wishes to be successful in BB.

Fantastic summary...all of my prospects will be following this theory.

Training IS at Center (or C/PF) does provide secondary training to ID. I know, from experience, and have seen ID pop while training IS.

I suppose that for your guy, he could have gone 14+ weeks without an ID pop if:
- his initial ID sublevel was extremely low
- ID was relatively high (compared to his other inside skills), and trained slightly slower as a result
- his age was a bit higher than optimal
- his height is a bit lower than optimal for inside training
- maybe in some weeks, he didn't get a full 48 minutes?

Those are just some possible factors I can think of, some of which might apply to your guy. His ID sublevel should be very high now, in any case.

Last edited by The Mogul at 4/22/2010 5:22:39 PM

Absolutely GREAT post Mogul... We should have more managers like you :)

hello this might be canada team u21
------------------------------------------------------------- Massimo Gaeta (16221886) Shooting Guard
Owner: ET-Rate

Weekly salary: $ 4 119

DMI: 10300
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: pitiful
Driving: atrocious Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: awful

Experience: atrocious







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He is short. But Allstar potential is not great.

Allstar is plenty for a PG. Mine is only star and has a decent shot to make the team next season.

For a guard all-star is probably fine for the u21 team but is nowhere near the full NT. Star is pushing it and I think it may keep some players out of u21 contention in upcoming seasons.
The pitiful/atrocious handling/driving are a bigger issue in my mind, but I guess if you're going to have any bad guard skills you'd want it to be those two.