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264227.47 in reply to 264227.44
Date: 11/3/2014 8:45:42 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
So just to understand
First we had no chance to beat either China or Latvia
and now if he would have played it right we would have beaten both
Okay!
I congratulate the U21 manager.
He GDP'd right on both
faked out the Latvian guy to GDP wrong on both
used more enthusiasm and because of all that squeezed out a 3 point win against a far superior opponent
Luck?
I can't believe I'm always the bad guy here
Can't anybody read

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 11/3/2014 8:46:53 PM

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264227.48 in reply to 264227.47
Date: 11/3/2014 11:15:00 PM
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No doubt that this is a great victory, congrats Sparky.

Unfortunately pointing it out as you have is kind of taking a pot shot. The current term has been marred by multiple forfeits including one in what I would consider a big game, as well as other disappointing results. If appoligies are in order there is multiple people that should be saying them.

As for the approval rating, it is what it is for a reason. Election time will allow Canada to further voice it's opinion.

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264227.49 in reply to 264227.48
Date: 11/3/2014 11:47:14 PM
Pszczyna Team
II.1
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Approval rating doesnt matter. Some just set it once and they never bother to change it.
Great win!
Now hopefully good results will come in consolation tournament

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264227.50 in reply to 264227.48
Date: 11/4/2014 4:18:45 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Very well
and one would expect that to be your opinion.
And that's fair, like me you are entitled to one.
I do believe however that the pot shot was taken by another as in the quote
had it been me,I would have reacted differently
but alas, so it goes

Still sir you are unfairly negative about the current campaign
as well as other disappointing results

Nobody could have expected a 2-1 record with games against the vaunted China & Latvia teams
thus my call for an apology from you know who
You too could have taken the high road

On another subject
There are 225 active teams and 32 voted last time for U21
Need to get more involved along with the same old tired voices

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 11/4/2014 5:47:02 AM

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264227.51 in reply to 264227.50
Date: 11/4/2014 7:42:23 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
719719
Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Bottom Line
Canada doesn't come close to other countries when it comes to level of talent at U21
Our players have been at terrible levels of game shape as well
If Sparky doesn't get back in
I don't see anyone doing any different until we take it upon ourselves to change those 2 points

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264227.52 in reply to 264227.51
Date: 11/4/2014 7:47:26 AM
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Completely agreed the interest in the U21 team is at an all time low. Hopefully more people will not only vote but will check the results and give a damn.

Other nations with successful U21 teams often have better NT results. They go hand in hand IMO.

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264227.53 in reply to 264227.52
Date: 11/4/2014 8:30:54 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Point taken
But their players are SO much better

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264227.54 in reply to 264227.53
Date: 11/4/2014 9:33:49 AM
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But their players are SO much better


This is the most difficult thing about the U21 job. Results are important but the bigger responsibility in my opinion is player development. If the other teams are so much better it is up to the U21 manager to help develop a system to reduce difference in talent levels.

Of course this is very challenging and in some cases cannot be changed. It relies on an active community (which we seem to be loosing), dedicated managers (we have some but not enough), getting solid draftees and then getting them into the right hands. Being a smaller user base makes it even more difficult as we simply have less draftees and quality managers.

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264227.55 in reply to 264227.53
Date: 11/4/2014 10:49:18 AM
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The "look at me, I'm right and you're wrong" diatribe is quite annoying. That said, this win was great. Could be the first decent (or in this case, much more than decent) win I've seen compared to many mistakes. Latvia definitely looks extraordinarily better than us and had a huge GS advantage.

If I'm being critical or fair, it really looks like we "wasted" enthusiasm on the surface. The biggest reason we had an ability to win that game -- even though sparky got 2/2 GDP right and used more effort -- is that Latvia's manager fucked up and missed 2/2 GDP. Latvia had a 100% chance of winning if they didn't touch GDP. Not faulting sparky for winning, though.

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264227.56 in reply to 264227.55
Date: 11/4/2014 11:15:21 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
719719
Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
There is no wasted enthusiasm
apparently if you kept it at 5 or better it gets reset into next round
Sparky knew that the Latvia manager loves to guess every game and made sure he would be wrong
Both of his big wins the last 2 seasons have been partly because of mis-management on the other side
but you have to study the tendencies and use it to your advantage
That's not luck

Straight up though...Talent for talent
Canada should have gone 1-2 and it should not have been close

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264227.57 in reply to 264227.54
Date: 11/4/2014 11:21:06 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
719719
Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Part of Canada's problems is that the top end talent does end up in top managers hands
The top potential guys and they cross train plenty
and while we believe mostly as a group that well rounded players are better
don't know that it works in U21
Their big salary players dwarf ours in certain skills.
I know Sparky stays in touch with current managers
they either won't listen when it comes to GS (You can see that easily)
or have plans of their own when it comes to training
Scouting each season right now shows many of the same type of players
Fact is none of them is dominant in anything

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