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I'd love to see you analyse koops relegation series in the ABBL and the season that followed

In my opinion, luck isn't a part of this game.

Of course luck is part of the game.
Let's say that you have a level 7 doctor. And you are playing in the best of 3 finals in the ABBL.
You win the first game, your opponent wins the second game.
It is down to a final game decider.
In the first half your 2 starting players get injured.
This causes you to lose the game.

You got unlucky.
Your opponent got lucky.

Luck exists.

Statistics require "luck".

speaking of koop he has another famous incident that also shows how sometimes it is hard 2 know if it is luck or skill or lack of skill

koop in season 14 was great he had a studly team & did a ace job 2 reach finals but was up against The Meateors who were heavy favs 2 win

koops team was good, & had 3 real stars

Rooney the pg was on a mission that season
Nicky Shipp the sg was unlike any guard we had seen @ that time i never knew his stats but he was unguardable
Reasat Khan was a solid sf & still plays in the abbl today

g1 @ home meaty has the biggest brain fart ever & goes the 2/3 zone against a totally outside team & plays run&gun when his bigs r much better then his guards & koops guards have better def than his big men anyway & somehow loses

the whole league was like wtf?

then meaty forgets to set a scrimmage lineup & screws the gs of his whole team as they all play 100 mins except the bench who play 30

Salvador Jiménez Llanes drops from 18.0 - 14.5 rating
Sosaia Carrington drops 13.5 - 11.0
Eusebio Ravasio drops 14.0 - 12.0
etc

so g2 @ koops house koop gets the win, makes the abbl & now is 1 of the best teams in australia

so it was meatys "skill" that gave koop the "luck"

so it was meatys "skill" that gave koop the "luck"

I see what you did there!

I hire a level 7 doctor. I know there is still a chance that my player gets injured.

I hire a very aggressive player. I know I'll have better chances to injure the opponent's player.

These are statistics indeed but I don't call it luck. However I admit there is a part of luck: maybe the opponent manager will screw up because he goes on vacation or whatsoever.

Sorry that my english isn't good enough to clearly argue my point... well, doesn't matter anyway :p

Getting promoted/relegated to D3.6 unlucky.

Last edited by BreakerJ at 6/3/2012 4:40:28 AM

there is 1/16 chance to land here, so if that happens you just have to take it :p

and if you manage to work your way out, pray not to get in 2.2!

Amen to that. Going from III.6 into II.2 is like jumping out of the fire and into a furnace!!!

Last edited by pm24 at 6/3/2012 8:40:15 AM

If I buy a lotto ticket and win, I got lucky. There is a 1 in 40000000000 or whatever chance of my ticket being the winning number. Yes, it is statistics, but it would still be very lucky for me to win.

Now buy 2 lotto tickets: you'll double your chances to win. Will you be as lucky if you win then?

Then make it with a BB player: if you play a bloke that has never fouled in his entire career, your chances are very low to injure someone. If you play a bloke that fouls out every game, youll be less surprised if you manage to injure an opponent. Less lucky, too?

What's luck?

I make my luck myself. I don't think I'm lucky if I hit 36 free throws in a row (and I've done it before :p). I know I'm a fine shooter and I can hit them.

Imo, it's all about working your own chances to make something happen.