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158850.44 in reply to 158850.40
Date: 10/12/2010 6:38:35 AM
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am i the one to start getting sarcastic? oh please.

personal attacks, eh? which part?
c'mon, we don't need to search, it's right here with your latest post.

please read my answers and get back to me with a plausible argument. hindi yung puro div II at PPL ang sinasabi natin.
reality is, managing the NT is very similar to managing in the PPL. kung div III lang eh di ka maka-alis at nababasa mo palang ang DIV II at PPL eh nag-hahanap ka ng ibang pag-uusapan, good luck na lang sayo. =)

actually, why don't you convince the managers in PPL or div II to run? more importantly, why none of them vied for the post? why don't you?
why would i convince them? try mo kaya?;) hindi kase basta-basta ang mag-manage ng NT. you need to have a good plan, experience, time and support of all the managers here in the philippines.

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don't expect me to kiss everybody's ass just so i would win their vote. i'm not a politician. if i am attacked, i bite back. i'm not to back down just because i'm "just" from div III.
chill ka lang pre. this is a debate thread kaya dapat open ka sa mga opinion ng voters. wag init kagad ng ulo.

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158850.45 in reply to 158850.44
Date: 10/12/2010 6:50:31 AM
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pre, pakibasa ng post ni aldo ha? pakiusap lang

reality is, managing the NT is very similar to managing in the PPL. kung div III lang eh di ka maka-alis at nababasa mo palang ang DIV II at PPL eh nag-hahanap ka ng ibang pag-uusapan, good luck na lang sayo. =)


naghahanap? pakipaliwanag ulit. sa totoo lang, ayoko ng paulit ulit ng sinasabi eh. pero hindi nga, bakit hindi ikaw ang tumakbo?

why would i convince them? try mo kaya?;) hindi kase basta-basta ang mag-manage ng NT. you need to have a good plan, experience, time and support of all the managers here in the philippines.


in order for you to have a good plan, you need to see what you have and what your opponent has. now, which country has a final roster for their U21 team when U21 coach election is not yet over? ^_^

chill ka lang pre. this is a debate thread kaya dapat open ka sa mga opinion ng voters. wag init kagad ng ulo.


mabait pa ko ng lagay na to. tanong mo sa mga TDP'ers na nandito kung pano ako sumagot. besides, kung ayaw nyo sa kandidato, kailangan bang gawin ang ginawa ni aldo? kung ayaw nyong nakakagat, wag kayong mangagat. oke? i was happily answering everybody's queries, including yours, until he came and rubbed it to me that i am "just" from div III. ngayon, ako ang mali dahil sinagot ko sya sa parehong manner na sinabihan nya ko? some logic. *shrugs*

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158850.46 in reply to 158850.32
Date: 10/12/2010 8:22:05 AM
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hmm, I'll try to make a plan for the first season, because it is different to do this for the second one already, because you don't know any oponnents or even your roster

13.10.-16.10. In this team I would choose the right players to perform good the next 14 weeks, also I will generate tables with the best players of their age group

18.10 first game against india this must be a clear win with a tie, no discussions about that :-)

1.11 Lubnan --> must be the next win

8.11 U.A.E and here everybody expects a win also :-)

after this three games we should have optimal motivation and 3 wins, this would mean, tat w are in the next round, because the best 4 go up to the next stage :-)

after that we'll have 3 more games against malaysia, indonesia and the hardest until there with australia

then of course in the next round we want the finsh 1. also, but even the second place is enough to come into the semifinals, but the final must be the goal, because there everything is possible ;-)

in season 15 we want to play the world cup, but I can't say the goals for it yet, like I said above.

Also i will of course write an articel before every game and on friday i'd like to tell you, if the training was succesful :-)


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158850.47 in reply to 158850.43
Date: 10/12/2010 8:27:15 AM
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of course a manager from a lower division can be a good one, if he has managerial skills, but only very seldom he will be better than a manager who plays in the top league, because this manager knows a lot about the intricacies of the game and he has a lot of experience out of very important championship and cup games.

also this manager can handle better with national team players, because the players in his roster are on a similar level. I know this, because the first season of my period in germany was quite strange, because I didn't have the feeling for these high skilled players. playing in the third division is completly different than managing a national team, which plays on a high level, for managers out of the highest divison this is not that complicated :-)

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158850.48 in reply to 158850.45
Date: 10/12/2010 9:11:07 AM
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pre ako din ayoko ng paulit-ulit. basahin mo na lang yung previous post ko.

in order for you to have a good plan, you need to see what you have and what your opponent has. now, which country has a final roster for their U21 team when U21 coach election is not yet over? ^_^
as of now wala pang may final roster. all of the NT managers are on scouting mode. sino naman ang nagsabi sayo na meron ng final roster? pwede yang baguhin anytime.

mabait pa ko ng lagay na to. tanong mo sa mga TDP'ers na nandito kung pano ako sumagot. besides, kung ayaw nyo sa kandidato, kailangan bang gawin ang ginawa ni aldo? kung ayaw nyong nakakagat, wag kayong mangagat. oke? i was happily answering everybody's queries, including yours, until he came and rubbed it to me that i am "just" from div III. ngayon, ako ang mali dahil sinagot ko sya sa parehong manner na sinabihan nya ko? some logic.
so utang na loob pa namin na mabait ka? haha, ayos ka din pre.

siguro medyo pinersonal mo ang sagot ni aldo, so sa inyo na lang yun. pero that doesn't change the fact na tama sya, importante ang experience at track record sa pagiging isang NT manager.

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158850.49 in reply to 158850.47
Date: 10/12/2010 9:19:40 AM
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of course a manager from a lower division can be a good one, if he has managerial skills, but only very seldom he will be better than a manager who plays in the top league, because this manager knows a lot about the intricacies of the game and he has a lot of experience out of very important championship and cup games.

also this manager can handle better with national team players, because the players in his roster are on a similar level.

i agree.


another question is, who are the managers that you plan to be your scouts? and if ever you'd be elected, how would you convince managers from the Philippines to help you?

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158850.50 in reply to 158850.49
Date: 10/12/2010 9:25:03 AM
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i think i don't have to convince anybody, because it is a little bit like a honour to help his own country ;-)

two managers already told me, that they want to help me, if I'd would be elected, i don't think, that it will be difficult to find some more dedicated managers

also my scouts should not only help me with the players, but also with the tactic, often four eyes see better than two, but for that i need to trust them totally :-)

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158850.51 in reply to 158850.50
Date: 10/12/2010 9:38:04 AM
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how can you guarantee that you will not sell out our player's skills to the German U21 NT?

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158850.52 in reply to 158850.49
Date: 10/12/2010 9:40:35 AM
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easy lang guys!!! kung ako ang tatanungin dito eh mas gusto ko tulungan matuto ang kapwa ko pilipino kesa bumoto sa dayuhan.

mas magandakung tayo tayo ang mag tulong tulong hindi yung tayo tayo ang magsisiraan.

peace guys...


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158850.53 in reply to 158850.48
Date: 10/12/2010 10:02:51 AM
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hindi ko sinasabi sa yong utang na loob mo sa ken na mabait pa ko dito. ang sinasabi ko lang, you haven't seen the worst of me. pati ba naman to kailangan ko pang ipaliwanag? geez!

wag ka ngang bias sa judgment mo. sa daming nakabasa ng post ni aldo, ikaw lang ang nagsabing hindi personal ang atake nya.

pero hindi nga, kung talagang magaling kayong nasa PPL at nasa div II, baket wala ni isa sa inyo ang tumakbo? kayo pala magaling eh di kayo magpatakbo ng U21. ka-simple simple eh. sheesh!

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158850.54 in reply to 158850.51
Date: 10/12/2010 11:49:10 AM
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hmm, how often did i have to answer this question already?

i want to win every single game with the u21 of your country and that's why it won't help me to give the skills away, the germans must be more afraid then you, because, i know the skills of their players ;-)

above all, the u21 coach, who will be elected, will be the last person, who gets any skills of any player from me, even the skills of a 1k player he wouldn't get

i can't guarantee anything, because I don't know how I should do this, but you have not be afraid, that i would give any skill away, in that case you just have to trust me :-)


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